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Pubs and bars could be forced to offer smaller glass sizes under plans to tackle binge drinking being drawn up by ministers. Action against premises that offer the largest measures of wine and spirits as standard is one of the key elements of a package due to be announced this autumn.
Standard glass sizes have increased markedly in recent years, leading to accusations from doctors that the drinks industry is “supersizing” measures. The largest wine glass holds 250ml – a third of a bottle of wine, meaning that a woman can drink more than the recommended daily limit in one go. The number of units – 3 to 3.5 – would put some over the driving limit.
A recent survey found that 70 per cent of licensed premises no longer offered customers the option of a 125ml glass, with 175ml standard in 75 per cent of pubs and 14 per cent using 250ml glasses as standard. Many premises are also said to have increased spirit measures from 25ml to 35ml and to offer doubles as standard.
Ministers’ determination to compel pubs and bars to offer smaller glass sizes has been reinforced by an independent audit by KPMG, due to be published next week, that is believed to have found widespread abuses of a voluntary code on responsible drink promotions. Proposals that make the voluntary code mandatory, requiring outlets to offer smaller glass sizes and banning cut-price drink, could be included in a consultation to be announced this autumn, say officials.
Ministers have also received the interim findings of an academic report into the effects of pricing on demand for drink that is thought to clear the way for new legal curbs on selling alcohol below cost price.
A Whitehall source said: “We can’t force people to drink sensibly – but we can help them to understand how many units they are drinking, the harm they may be doing to themselves and make it easier to buy smaller drinks if they want to. The Government can’t do that alone. We need ‘buy-in’ from the industry and we need them to offer smaller glasses of wine or smaller spirit measures. It’s time for the industry to take more responsibility for the consequences of how they serve customers. Customers should not have to ask for a small glass.”
Jacqui Smith, the Home Secretary, indicated last month that the Government’s patience with the drinks industry was running out, adding: “We have reached a bit of a watershed moment.”
The Youth Alcohol Action plan, which was published this year, hinted that the Government was prepared to force the industry to take tougher action. It said that although there had been some progress in tackling underage sales, many young people continued to be able to buy alcohol illegally.
Within the industry there is uncertainty over how to react to the Government, with some concerned that it will continue to push for more and more concessions. Others even wonder whether alcohol could go the same way as tobacco, with ever increasing restrictions on advertising and sales.
Professor Ian Gilmore, the President of the Royal College of Physicians, called on the drinks industry to take action on glass sizes. “People are aware of units, they want to stay within safe limits, but they are being pushed up way over those limits by just not realising what they are drinking. The industry is being irresponsible and needs to put its house in order.”
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Utterly ridiculous and useless legislation again.
Why can't the government trust people toi lead their own lives, and get on with sorting out some real problems?
Mark, Den Haag, Netherlands (formerly UK)
Why don't British pubs, off-licences & supermarkets stock a good range of non-alcoholic drinks as they do in France? At least people would have an enjoyable alternative to beer & wine, instead of endless orange juice.
Patricia Olsen, Stroud, UK
In our pub we listened to what our customers were asking for - we rarely sold a 125ml glass, and our 'large' 175ml glasses were laughed at by many, so we started offering all 3. Nobody has asked for a 125ml glass in over 6 months! Try looking at country pubs as well as city centre ones in surveys!
Ed Davies, Hay on Wye, powys
My goodness, what is the nanny state coming to. Big Brother now dictating our social habits too. Give Mr & Mrs Public some benefit of doubt.
The Government have assinated the institution that was the great British Pub.
Just go to Tesco, buy cheap booze, become anti-social and get sloshed at home
Vincent, Guernsey, Channel Islands
Ah! Now I know why the head on a pint of beer gets bigger year by year.
It is for our own good.
Bill Irvine, West Lothian, Scotland
Amazing comments, obviously from the drink till I drop brigade. Common sense says that some CONSISTANT measure should be in place which would allow everyone (not just the potential drunks) to know their intake. No one objects to accurate pints so whats the problem?
mike gee, bournemouth, uk
I cant wait for ID cards.No alcohol served without an ID card and your only allowed a certain number of New Labour units per week.Bar maid swipes your card ,no units left.Problem solved.
JohnP, Newcastle, UK
nanny knows best passive drinking is on its way.same sort of figures same sort of tactics that resulted in another ban and that was brought about by female labour mps and like all bullies with power they don,t stop picking on the ones who can,t fight back they just change victims now its drinkers
brian rice, halifax, england
These "safe limits" were completely fabricated. Made up. Fictitious. The committee that made them up admitted this. So why use these arbitrary figures in policy? This is classic Labour Puritanism. We need rid of this Presbyterian Prime Minister.
Kay Tie, York, UK
In the bars I frequent one can choose a large glass or a small glass. The choice is up to the CONSUMER.
Sarah G, London,
Amazing, isn't it? Anywhere else, offering you less than before would be considered sharp practice. But, as Phill says, this is Britain. We're not considered clever enough to realise more wine means more alcohol. Driving limit? Simple, don't drive. Choose a pub within a bus ride or walking distance.
Barry, Wallington, UK
Kara Tyson, Mobile, AL , USA
This is Britain. If there's an angle available to rip someone off and dress it up as doing them a favour then someone will do it.
So no, the price will be the same for less
Phill, The Wirral, England
I assume with the smaller glasses the cost will also be lowered, right??
Kara Tyson, Mobile, AL , USA
In some countries, i.e. almost everywhere else, bars and pubs just pour and serve. None of this lined glass nonsense.
The last thing the UK needs is more regulation, especially having lived there and in the US. You can tell the difference immediately.
Jonathan Gaugler, New York, USA
Ahhhh, don't you see what this is? This is classic Orwell. What the government is doing is escalating the drink problem completely out of proportion, so that it can keep prices the same but reduce measures. I don't goto pubs as the prices are too high now. I'd rather pick up a six pack from the offy
Mark, London, England
These idiots constantly prove they don't visit pubs so I'll tell them something many drinkers know. You actually drink more faster if your drinking from smaller glasses.
Alex, York,
How about a little personal responsibility? You don't HAVE to drink the entire glass of wine. Ask the server for a second (empty) glass and split it between the two.
Andy, Milwaukee, US
About time. It is impossible to have a small glass of wine in the UK. Remember when there were 6 glasses in a bottle? Well there still is everywhere else in Europe. One glass in UK & you are over the drink drive limit. The glass sizes make social glass of wine an impossibility. I can't wait.
Christine Frati, St Cyr au Mont d'Or, France
Hmm. How would one work round this new legislation?
Michael Marian, Gibraltar, Gibraltar
Pathetic. I think the problem is that the 'authorities' have to be seen to be doing something, irrespective of effectiveness. We see it everywhere....articulate the soundbite and move on. The lack of imagination in problem solving though is scary.
Steve, Redditch, Worcs
You don't go to a pub to get drunk, you buy a bottle from a supermarket. What on earth is wrong with a publican offering a larger glass to his customer ?- how ese can he compete. Should the police check on Mr Whippy in case he's guilty of giving out too much ice-cream?
Britain's gone daft!
Jim Hatch, Acapulco, Mexico
absolute nanny state rubbish.
if you want to get drunk and all of a sudden the pub is only allowed to sell half pints or single shots or whatever, the only action will be that you buy two of everything instead
i swear the so called political elite are a bunch of lobotomy cases!
will, grimsby, uk