Ariel Leve
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People always say nothing in life is worth having unless you’ve worked for it. Hard work pays off. Except when it comes to relationships. Or more specifically, relationships involving a woman with a strong personality.
The other day I was having coffee with a friend who was telling me about a failed relationship. He was going over it, trying to figure out what went wrong, and why, even though he loved her, he couldn’t be with her.
I was sympathetic. Right up until he reached a conclusion. She was, he said: “Too much like hard work.”
What does that mean? I began wondering what vaults someone into this undesirable category. The category that wipes out all other redeeming features. And once you’re in it, there’s no getting out. The more you try to prove you don’t belong in this category, the more it re-enforces you do.
I felt bad for this woman I’d never met. I wanted to call her up and tell her to move on – quickly – because unless she was willing to get a lobotomy, the relationship was definitely over. And then, just as I was about to mount a defence on her behalf, my friend said, “You know what I mean.”
Now I was confused. Was he suggesting I could relate to what he was saying because I have been in situations with men who were hard work? Or, did he mean I could relate to his decision because I have “hard work” stamped on my forehead. And that I have experienced my share of men giving up on me – and who can blame them?
Guess what? It was the latter. “C’mon,” he said, “You know you’re not the easiest person to be in a relationship with.”
How would he know? We’ve never even dated. “You think I’m hard work?” I asked. He gave me a look. The look an airline employee gives a passenger who has just learned they’re not getting an upgrade and is trying to argue there’s been a mistake.
“You know you’re difficult,” he asserted. “It took six e-mails, three phone calls and a dozen texts to make a plan for coffee.”
What’s wrong with that? I’m conscientious. And therein, lies the problem. Everyone has their own definition of what constitutes hard work. What some people see as a headache, others see as a challenge.
If something is bothering me, I tend not to keep it inside. This might not be the way to go. Nothing says hard work more than a woman who starts conversations with: “Can I ask you a question?”
From now on, when someone asks me what I’m looking for in a man, I’m going to say: a good work ethic. That, and a high pain threshold.
Ariel Leve writes for The Sunday Times Magazine, specialising in investigative features, in-depth interviews and a humorous weekly column, Cassandra. She was awarded Feature Writer of the Year by the British Magazine Design & Journalism Awards in 2008 and in the same year Highly Commended in the British Press Awards, for which she has twice been nominated. Her book, The Cassandra Chronicles, will be published by Portobello Books August 6th (UK) and HarperPerennial (US and Canada) March 2010. Click below to read her Cassandra column
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I'm hard work - but I work hard too - I want a lot out of a relationship but I'm willing to put a lot in. What's wrong with that?
Michka, London,
I want her back in the magazine as well - I really miss her and having to find her on-line is not the same. Bring back Ariel. Why isnt she in the magazine - were we told? Do they pay you less Ariel? It's not on!
Mary Kate Lock, Leicester, England
In the USA, we often say, "There is a lid for every pot." In other words, one man may find the woman who is busy, successful, powerful or opinionated to be "hard work," but another man may find her "complex, interesting, challenging and exciting." Some men may find the woman who is "easy work" to be "boring." It's the same way with your girlfriends. I have some girlfriends who are very busy and it takes some effort to make plans with them for coffee - but I put in that effort if it's someone worth seeing!
Susan, Atlanta, GA, USA
Hi,
Hard Work to which I have a relationship to give my children a good education to make good people out of them however at the remains of the day one is left empty quanta costa
Terence
Terence Hale, zandvoort, Holland
In modern life we have the Poor, the Middle Class, the Rich.....and now the Business Class, of which this woman is a member. Male or Female, they are job and money obsessed, to the point that most of the human emotions, (other than extreme loneliness in a crowd) elude them. They are busy as bees, but produce no honey. Nothing beats taking a nap on the sofa, with your two toddlers, one on each shoulder, dreaming away profoundly. The Business Class has no idea concerning the really valuable things and experiences in life. The purchase price, to them, is far too high.....hundreds and thousands of hours of Time, given freely in a life lived without a portable phone, but with much love and giving.
Victor Compton, Cherbourg, France
From a financial point-of-view, the idea of creating financial assets is recent. For centuries, the tiny minority who were rich were born into wealth, and the vast majority, no matter how hard they worked, could never hope to accumulate wealth. So, yes, in that sense, work to make money is a recent concept.
Samuel Young, Paris, France
I would like Ariel back in the Magazine.It takes me ages to find her blog-but then I am pretty inefficient on the computer.It was one of the first thimgs I looked forward to reading
Geoff, Lancing, West Sussex
I generally find that people that say "If something bothers me I say something", get bothered about most things.
alex, london,
Another vote for the column to be in the Magazine. It was always the first article I read. Now I don't get to it until Thursday.1
Helen, Warminster, UK
Helen Palmer, Warminster, UK
a) Love is work.
b) Here's why: According to Gottman's 30+ years of research, 70% of conflict in couples cannot be resolved except by each individual compromising the precious set of values introduced into the relationship. Summary: you can only change 30% of the irritating aspects of any beloved's personality; the rest you have to learn to live with, as the beloved does yours.
ramsay, London,
Nah, you're treading on thin ice here ariel. You seem to be mixing / equating 'strong personality' (first parag') with being 'hard work', as tho' the two go together. They don't. And in my experience 'strong personality' people wouldn't dream of describing themselves as such ....they don't need to. But you're not 'hard work' either, you just have your own standards, and ask questions, so just relax and stop fretting about it because the 'fretting / deluded strong woman' pose can be annoying. But your questions are not annoying, more endearing, and they just seem to suggest insecurity and vulnerability.....which can be attractive to men, especially when coming from a smart woman.......which is why so many men like your articles.
So cut the 'strong woman' camouflage, you don't need it. You almost certainly could be annoying, but then who isn't in some way, but you're also sort of vulnerable and cute ariel. Accept that.
Joe
Joseph Reynolds, Edinburgh, UK
I am so sorry Ariel Leve has been removed from the colour supplement and placed clinically on line. II try not to crank up the computer at the breakfast table and have forgotten about her when I get to work. Sorry Ariel, I prefer paper to screen.
Georgie Shaw, London,
To Caitlin Moran re Amy Hidey-house
Amy is not the first young woman to use her hair in this way. My grandmother packed shells at Woolwich Arsenal during WW1. She told me that some girls would conceal a small bottle of gin in their piled-up hair and take sips when the supervisor wasn't looking. As the shift went on they would get so drunk they would slump in their chair. The other girls would push them under the long work table and move their chairs up to fill the gap. Plus ca change....
Hilary Watt, London, UK
hard work in relationships?sometimes it looks alike a desperate gesture-rescue me -'i don't want to die alone'
bendis , oltenita, romania
Without working at them, all relationships diminish.
Father Bryan Storey, Tintagel, UK
Nothing worthwhile in life is easy. So, if you're hard work, good for you, it means you're likely head and shoulders above the sea of mediocrity. And if a man isn't prepared to take on the challenge of winning a spirited woman over, then quite simply it's him that isn't worth it.
John Gregory, Cambridge,
Please please please please come back to the hard copy of the Sunday Times magazine!!!! Many many readers would agree with me that you're being marginalised here in cyberspace. Your column has been a must-read in the Sunday Times, one of the things I most look forward to in the paper. I want to read your column on sunday with the other hard copy, rather than having to hunt it out on the computer - that's not so much fun at all. Please, Sunday Times, bring the Cassandra column back to the hard copy of the magazine.
raia, oxford, oxon
Perhaps you tried to plan your coffee outing to far in advance. If you called a friend up and asked them to coffee the same day you plan on having coffee, there would be no time for multiple e-mails and text messages confirming your plans. It sounds to me, that your style is more akin to live your life in a more spur of the moment fashion. Making plans that far in advance is difficult, with this type of person <of which I am one>.......... then again, I'm still single and have been told more then once that I am difficult.
Faith, Withheld, Withheld
Ariel - Had the situation been reversed where in the spectrum
six e-mails, three telephone calls, twelve text messages would
you have thrown in the towel and said "too much hard work.?
Do I really want to reach this person?"
Bob, Boston,
There is hard work meaning, prepared to work at, which most of us are prepared to do in a relationship, and "hard work" which I suggest your male friend means, the constant ego massaging, the dealing of high levels of insecurity, vanity, etc, etc, etc.
It all gets very boring, and exhausting. Try reading the "Games People Play"
ADEN, Swindon, England
It works both ways. It,s called compromise!
Thats what Annie refers too.
Garry, Sheffield,
Six emails, three phone calls and a dozen texts to meet up for coffee is ridiculous. As posted above, if some of you have lives to lead and work to do, then don't let me stop you. It speaks of petty arrogance. To me that says: you're not important enough.
One of the first things I look for in a woman (or any friendship for that matter) is a degree of courtesy and respect for my people's time. If someone requires that amount of effort to get them to sit down to have coffee with me, I would not consider that person a friend. It sounds more like I'm trying to get a sale.
Self-important people are boorish, men and women alike.
David Navarrete, Fairfield, USA / Iowa
Annie, I quite agree. Incidentally, I'm a man who falls nicely into the 'hard work' category.
Olly, York,
I think older generations are astonished at how little we are prepared to work at our relationships thesedays. Ask any elderly couple who have been married for decades (Liz II and Philip - 60 years!) about what makes a successful long-term partnership and they will almost always say 'hard work'.
Annie, Emsworth,
Excellent .I'm also hard work
Younis, Mansoura, Egypt
âYou know youâre difficult,â he asserted. âIt took six e-mails, three phone calls and a dozen texts to make a plan for coffee.â
What's wrong with that?
Some of us have lives to lead and work to do :-)
fnusnuank, Gen., Switz.
âIt took six e-mails, three phone calls and a dozen texts to make a plan for coffee.â
Hard work = attention needing (pathological)
Jon, North West, UK
excellent article
Younis, Mansoura, Egypt
Boy. You do sound like hard work.
Pete, Sydney, Australia