Ariel Leve
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Recently there has been a proliferation of articles and lists offering men common-sense advice about women. The latest one is: obvious ways a man can tell if a woman fancies him. The audience must be men who have lived in a cave. And the list is misleading. It’s not stating the obvious. It’s creating false hope and contributing to more confusion.
For instance, if she sits on the edge of her seat when talking to a man she's "interested". Not necessarily. I sit on the edge of my seat all the time. It usually means I’m about to get up to pee.
Here's another. If she drinks beer from a bottle (instead of Merlot from a glass), she wants you. If you’re the sort of man who would interpret this as a signal, you really shouldn’t be dating.
And another: if she excuses herself to apply lip gloss it means she’s attracted and if she applies it in front of you – it’s a bad sign. Really? I apply lip-gloss in front of men all the time. Then again, that could be right. I AM still single.
Apparently you can tell she’s into you if she doesn't answer her mobile phone. This definitely isn’t true. She might not be answering her phone because it’s her boyfriend wondering where she is. Or her credit card company chasing her for the monthly payment. Or, in my case, I’m not answering because no one is calling.
Here’s another. If she touches you, more than once. Again, not so convincing. I touch men on the arm if they’re not listening because I want them to pay attention. Just because I want them to listen to me doesn’t mean I want to date them. It also entirely depends on where the woman is touching.
I suppose there might be a few men out there who can’t tell when a woman is into them, but I’ve never met any. In my experience, men always assume women are into them and if not, they assume she must be a lesbian.
And since we've had endless lists about the men that women should avoid, here's one for the men because there are plenty who can’t read the signals from a woman who should be avoided .
In this situation they fail to see the signs until it’s too late. So even though it’s a long way from burning with desire to burning your house down, here are some clues for men so that there’s no grey area.
1. She asks you what you're looking for in a relationship and when you reply, "I’m not looking" she glosses over it and mentions your beautiful eyes.
2. You cancel plans because you’re too tired and she asks: why? When you tell her you’ve been working hard, she asks: on what? You mention a female co-worker and she asks: who’s she? After you explain everything she says: get some rest.
3. She knows things about you that you never told her and could only have found out by hiring a private detective.
Ariel Leve writes for The Sunday Times Magazine, specialising in investigative features, in-depth interviews and a humorous weekly column, Cassandra. She was awarded Feature Writer of the Year by the British Magazine Design & Journalism Awards in 2008 and in the same year Highly Commended in the British Press Awards, for which she has twice been nominated. Her book, The Cassandra Chronicles, will be published by Portobello Books August 6th (UK) and HarperPerennial (US and Canada) March 2010. Click below to read her Cassandra column
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Believe it or not, either party can approach the other. I understand that using subtle suggestive nuances is safer for the gutless & some people need to be pursued to feel desirable = control, but love involves risk. Currently, many people feel undesirable except to contribute money and attention.
Michael, New Orleans, USA
Believe it or not, either party can approach the other. I understand that using subtle suggestive nuances is safer for the gutless & some people need to be pursued to feel desirable = control, but love involves risk. Currently, many people feel undesirable except to contribute money and attention.
Michael, New Orleans, USA
If a man touches a woman unsolicited ANYWHERE to gain her attention he risks ending up being severely scolded, in a tribunal or worse. I suggest in the interests of equality you resist this approach.
Robin Smith, Bedford, England
I am 36, and almost all guys are into me... how do I know, because men are so obvious and transparent. I can pick and choose whoever I want. For men, unless you are Young, handsome and rich, you won't get any obvious 'hints' for women, so good luck.
Emilie, wales, UK
I'm quite the opposite actually and have had woman approach me asking why i didn't come over and say hello, or if you felt that way why didn't you say something. A lot of woman assume all guys have confidence. We can be just as insecure as woman don't make that assumption!
Drew, London,
So Ariel, all the men you have known have always assumed women are into them unless they are lesbians? Where have you been living? In a cave full of neanderthals?
Graham, Bristol,
Pete, women are just the same but as you prob know, they mature faster so rather than being 46, they get bored by 25/26 and know they can get by fine without marriage, mess and hassle. But its nice to know that men Do catch up at some pt and feel the same :-)
Kira, slough, UK
I am afraid i really am one of those guys who cannot read the signals ! Can some one let me know what they are so i can look out for them ! I have found out retrospectively, that a girl(s) has/have been into me.....!
kamlesh, london, uk
Not all men assume you are into them. Its just the ones who are capable of asking you out are the type that do.
The men who don't think you like them are never going to ask you out in the first place, obviously really.
Still women always prefer men who assume you fancy them so don't complain at us
Matt, Cardiff,
Generally speaking, once a man reaches middle age he has become bored of the male-female mateing game. Having liberated himself from any meaningfull interest in what a woman 'thinks' or 'wants' he travels through life content, unassuming and with a smile on his face:-)
Pete, Hove, UK
I have found that women are into my wallet rather than me.
Scott, Bangkok, Thailand
Joe, Manchester- not attention per se. With animals, females let lesser males court as they give gifts of food, or it's a promising young'un who may become the alpha. Millions of years' evolution says we should be nice as you might buy us something, or one day kill your boss and take his office!
Lizzie, London,
No we don't. In fact I think the reverse - because like most people, I have my insecurities though I'm averagely attractive, and reasonably nice. I think the truth is women often pretend to be attracted to get attention.
Joe, Manchester,
Men don't 'pull'. The woman decides yes or no, and then sends out the appropriate signal. It is then up to the man to follow it through, or not.
mike, Rennes, Frogland
actually, i assume that no women are ever into me. then, on one of those weird days (where the world is spinning backwards, or the sun set at 11am) i can be nicely surprised.
aje, cardifff, wales
men have to make some sort of basic assumption:-) because everytime they meet the same women they get a different set of parameters to have to work with
Gareth Davies, Munich, Germany
I am 46 and I've had three women "really" into me. Why? Because that's normal guys. Are you listening? A woman will let you know if they're into you so quit trying so hard. The rest are friends and there are a lot of things a guy can learn from female friendships so pay attention.
chubb, det, us