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Ah, those size-zero ladies, with their sternums and clavicles and harshly sweeping cheekbones and big, big vulnerable eyes and sharply delineated wrists (set off to perfection by an oversized man’s watch and a clutch of chunky bracelets) — they were fun for a while, in a car-crashy kind of way, weren’t they? All that gossip and bitchery. But they weren’t very ... sexy. You couldn’t imagine shoving Nicole Richie up against a wall and doing naughty things to her, could you? She would break. Nope, those skinny little wenches may be good at dangling Chanel handbags from delicate fingers, but they don’t do so well at inspiring lasciviousness, awe and plain ol’ dirty thoughts. For that, you need a lady with some flesh on her bones. And I know just where to find one.
While all eyes have been on Hollywood’s anorexic angels, the world of indie rock has been undergoing some ch-ch-ch-ch-changes. When women wanting to make it in the mainstream will swiftly be told to slim down, nobody is paying any attention to the margins, which means that if you sneak a peek at any one of the many all-girl bands out there on the indie circuit, I guarantee there will be at least one pudgy little sauce-pot (UK size 14 or larger) in the band. And what a sight for sore eyes they are.
The cute fat girls of indie rock aren’t skulking and hiding: George from the Schla La Las, Delia from Manic Cough (recently seen modelling for Vice magazine), Titania from Tits of Death, Heathy Lee Roth of Gravy Train!!!! and the sassy guitarist Guri of the Priscillas. The look is bold and flaunting: halterneck dresses cut from 1950s patterns, accessorised with flicky scarves and white guitars (Schla La Las); bodacious thighs, over-the-knee boots, miniskirts and a cheeky little strip of knickers peeking from behind the bass (Tits of Death); glittery pink hot pants, boob tubes, giant fishnets and sarcastic aerobics-style dance moves (Gravy Train!!!!). And the queen of all the fat girls, of course, is Beth Ditto of Gossip, voted No 1 on the NME’s Cool List last year, the first woman to hold that coveted title.
Ditto is not about shame and shapewear; quite the opposite. “I’m not overweight,” she told an American magazine last year. “I’m fat, I have rolls, and I don’t care.” Her style is a thousand miles away from the dark colours, long, loose sleeves and vertical stripes that the robust of flesh are advised to use to disguise their body shape. Instead, she seeks to accentuate. She flashes her flesh as much as possible, stripping down to T-shirt and knickers at gigs and appearing on the cover of the lesbian magazine On Our Backs peering cutely over one shoulder, dressed only in bracelets, tattoos, big lace-trimmed pants and the sauciest expression you ever did see.
Fashion is one thing; what about hair and make-up for the size 16-plus? “I do feel that something to frame the face is important, whether it be the length of the hair or other factors,” says Adam Reed of Charles Worthington. “Short hair looks great on a rounder face: think of Beth Ditto. A bob also looks good — the sharpness acts as a balance. Use strong colour to accentuate the look, whether it be a rich black or a vibrant red.”
Essentially, it’s all about strong statements. “When the face is bigger, the features can get smaller,” says the make-up artist Alex Box, whose fat icons are Divine, Beth Ditto and Leigh Bowery. “You need to amplify the features, so that they dominate the face.” She recommends playing up the eyebrows (try a good eyebrow-shaping session at a brow bar) and eyes or the lips with strident colours. “Look at Dawn French. She has got great geometric and angular eyebrows, which give her face a really graphic shape.” Box also points out that plumper women generally have better skin: “It ages much better; it reflects light better; it has got more moisture.”
So play it up.
Fat girls are excluded from the mainstream fashion and beauty pack — smaller branches of hip fashion shops will carry barely any dresses in size 14, let alone anything larger — so they are natural rebels, forced to use ingenuity and subversion to look hip. The sad-eyed, semi-starved, designer-clad urchins of Hollywood may make compelling copy, but at the end of it all, they are just good girls, looking the way that women are meant to look: petite, fragile, delicate.
The cool fat girl is different. She is all about living in the moment. Forward planning and risk management (the cornerstones of dieting) — could any words be less rock’n’roll? The cute fat girl favours immediate pleasure — this biscuit, now! — over future consequence, and the glorious big girls of indie rock prove just how good you can look while doing it.
HOW CURVY GIRLS STAY LOOKING SWELL
Delia from Manic Cough “More is definitely more when it comes to being on stage. That applies to make-up, too. I love Rimmel liquid eyeliner, as it looks really dramatic; Maybelline mascara is cheap and effective; and I have an electric-blue eye shadow by Nina Ricci that almost glows. It looks great on stage.”
George from the Schla La Las “I don’t use anticellulite products. I don’t get my thighs out enough to worry about it. But I never leave the house without mascara, and I absolutely love the Bad Gal mascara by Benefit. Chanel Rouge Noir nail polish is sexy, and YSL Touche Eclat is perfect for concealing a multitude of sins after a heavy night of gigging.”
Guri from the Priscillas “I’m a size 16, and I’m comfortable with my body shape. I like being voluptuous. Palmer’s Cocoa Butter Formula moisturiser is brilliant. I use it all over my body. Clinique Moisture On-Call is great for keeping my face moisturised. For hair, my main tip is to use a hell of a lot of peroxide, set it in curlers and backcomb it.”
Titania from Tits of Death “Drink lots of water to ensure you keep your skin clear. I always use a body brush or a loofah to buff my skin, and any kind of exfoliator I can get my hands on. I just bought something called Fat Girl Slim by Bliss, which is really good, although I am dubious that anything you apply to your skin can help to bust fat.”
Kelly Osbourne Reportedly uses Skeyndor Crystal White treatments, such as the Intensive Lightening Precision Cream, to keep her china-doll complexion.
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Can you now print an article now on "having it large' men in bands?
Anne, Cardiff, UK
I can see why people found this article patronising and offensive. However what I got from it was, yes that old cliche, big is beautiful. There is more to a woman than her looks but the stereotypical goodlooks are no longer the ONLY ones to be found attractive. A lot of "skinny women" TEND TO look the same so people looking for natural beauty and charisma will look to the "big girl" and big girls TEND TO not look/act similar to each other.
HOWEVER, I hate the hypocrisy in the media. 1). If curves are in, let's see more plus size models. 2). SKINNY WOMEN ARE REAL WOMEN TOO! If it's natural it's real. 3). Not all skinny women are cows anymore than all big girls want to be burlesquedancers! 4). No two bodies look alike whether comparing two "skinny" or two "fat". 5). I don't find skinny supermodels "unattanable perfection" 6). My belly is not a "flaw". 7). I'm 5ft 2, size 10, 9 stone and look heavier than I am and given the choice I would rather be ME than Scarlett Johansson!
Phillipa, Manchester, United Kingdom/Lancashire
The truly sad thing about this is whenever a larger girl - Sophie Dahl being the last big thing (no pun intended) comes up on the scene it usually ends up with the girl in question becoming wafer thin to fit in just to stop being the poster girl of the masses. The media wax lyrical on size zero and the horrors of being too thin and then Nicola Kidman/Madonna/Reece Withserspoon eats a sandwich and she is pregnant or "letting herself go" - Who can blame them (and us) for being paranoid.
Don't be suprised if this time next year Ms Ditto is thin, tanned and sporting blonde locks and hanging off the arm of Ellen!
Ladies we buy the magazines, the diet wonder drugs and were the one who avidly read through the Look how theyve let themselves go sections with a secret joy! We need to learn to respect ourselves throw out your Heat Magazines, your Geri yoga videos anything even vaguely connected with Paris Hilton! If we can learn to support each other and be happy in our own skin ma
Victoria, Manchester,
There is a definite 'fascism' in the air about 'fat' people now that smoking has been eradicated. Some NHS trusts won't conduct operations on people with a high BMI. Life insurers stack your premium if you have a high BMI. The body mass index is utter nonsense, your bodyfat percentage is a much better indicator as you can be short and heavy ie a rugby player, weightlifter and be perfectly fit. For me, larger ladies will always be sexier and luckily for me, my gorgeous size 20 wife also likes short stocky men. Skinnies, get on yer bike!
Andy, Suffolk,
Great article!
I think that there is no perfect size or shape as beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it is wrong that the media ( and to be fair, the femail population) pepetuate this myth that to be successful and popular you need to be skinny. Be healthy and be happy I say.
I'm sporting the odd roll of fat for sure but have just had two nice chaps write cheeky poems about my charm and wit so excuse me while I go get a biscuit to go with my coffee......
B, Hong Kong,
I'm the skinniest gal in my family - and I'm a 16! I love the way I look and I love the way my (natural) bust looks!! I agree that plus size ladies wear lacks pizzazz. And clothes are made for beanpoles and scaled up without regard for curves (if you doubt this check out the jeans! Hip size 16, waist size 22). So I make my own. My husband of 12 years can't get enough...
What I hate is this government sponsored crucifixion of anyone over size 12. All those dying anorexic 12 year olds should be weighing on someone's conscience!! Lay off the luscious ladies! Fine, provide low cost exercise facilities. I agree that not all plus sizes are natural and not all are healthy, but my 25 stone granny lived to 89, no diabetes or anything else!
Moral of the story? Dont be skinny, be you!
Su, Godalming,
I am in favour of people being people, not autonoms, following every fickle fashion. Stick Insects are not my bag, but apparently every woman in the world, according to the media is literally dieing to be so.
I would suggest the media represent the underdog in this situation, namely, larger persons, what a refreshing change that would be. In this world, where if your not size 10 or you smoke, or a teenager on the street, or single parented or your not of a particular minority . You pritty much can expect to be villainised and scrutinised to anyones malcontent.
I state the first line from Pastor Niemollers, poem. "First They Came for the Jews..and I did not speak out "
It is only a matter of time dear friends.
Peter Hagan, Liverpool, England
Why can't people just accept that NEITHER fat nor extremely thin is beautiful. Wobbly, undulating folds of cellulite ridden flesh are no more attractive than bones poking through skin. Starving yourself to Nicole Ritchie proportions is deemed unhealthy and skinny models are blamed for young people becoming anorexic so why promote obesity as good when the next thing we know fat singers will be being blamed for the rise in obese children.
Jo, Southend on Sea,
I have been a singer for 25 years, currently a size 22. I feel good, I feel sexy, I feel confident. The only reason I would want to weigh less is cos I would like a sexier, funkier, sassier wardrobe than is available to me now.
BUT dispell the misconception than we all stuff our faces - my lunchbox today has 3 pieces of fruit, carrot and coriander soup, and water, my preferred drink over coffee or pop. Its not a diet, I like it! I might have choc tomorrow if I fancy it. Its metabolism and thyriod issues - NATURAL. Granted I dont exercise much (3 hours singing and dancing every week, loading my own PA, and an active sexlife aside), but nor do my thin friends!
I dont care whats in fashion or who else is carrying a few extra pounds - size 14 is still smaller than the average woman in UK. Get a life and live it, without guilt, paranoia and envy, enjoy yourself whatever your size cos life's too short.
Penny Griffiths, Coventry, UK
In the end it is all about being comfortable in your own skin and at your own size. You can be happy being a size 20 and unhappy at size 10. It is all in the mind.
Charlotte, Ealing, United Kingdom
Alright then, thin is out and fat is in now. Right, got it. Whew! A modern girl has SO many responsibilities to keep up with!
I know this was meant as a body-positive gesture. But the result is less than effective:
"[Thin women] were fun for a while, in a car-crashy kind of way, werent they? All that gossip and bitchery. But they werent very ... sexy. [T]hey dont do so well at inspiring lasciviousness, awe and plain ol dirty thoughts. For that, you need a lady with some flesh on her bones."
What are we being told we're supposed to feel good about? That us larger women can finally finally come in handy for something? Please don't try to sell this bull to us anymore.
Wendy, Detroit,
Interesting article i think all the women mentioned are beautiful and talented. I don't think there should be so much emphasis on size but unfortunately there is.
Being skinny does not automatically make you beautiful, its also the person you are. I know some very slim girls with figures to die for but, with the no personality and as interesting as a paper bag! I also have larger friends who light up a room when they walk into it, so its not all about size is it?
Although a size 18 myself (despite constant dieting) i always try to look smart and sexy. It must work because i certainly am not short of attention when i go out. So i think there are many men out there who like curvier women, its just that we have the skinny image thrust down our throats all the time as being the perfect image, and one we should all aspire to.
Carolyn, Yorkshire, England
It's a short-sighted viewpoint really because there would never be an article like this about fat men in rock n' roll looking good. Holding up the likes of Ditto as if to say 'isn't it great that despite/because of their appearance they can still ROCK' is surely part of the problem.
Helen Sheavils, Barnstaple, UK
I (size 18) and my friend (size 8) both find this article annoying and slightly offensive, not to mention patronising. It is just another example of women being reduced to thier looks (specifically their size). We love the women mentioned in this article for their musical talent, love of life, and appealing personalities - not for the number in their clothes.
Also, try not to forget that to compliment one woman does not have to mean insulting another. Surely declaring slim women as unsexy is as bad as saying the same about fat women?
Anna and Lucy, London, UK
So if we are all in praise of the larger(normal) lady why are we bombared with images of super-thin models in the style mag?
a bit of a contradiction i think.
louise, san francisco, caifornia
I read this with a big grin - finally my people are acknowledged! Taking our cues from the burlesquers made popular by Dita von Teese, curvy girls everywhere are leading a revolution in vintage 40s and 50s get up, brash lipstick and bright eyeshadows - and it is so nice when our efforts are recognised. Signed a sexy size sixteen and proud! ;)
Caroline, Newcastle upon Tyne,
When you live the life you love, everything else just falls naturally into place...
Anna, Athens, Greece
Since when was a UK size 14 fat??? Clothes manufacturers cut their clothes to suit their customers, so let's get away from this size-descriptive culture when talking about women's bodies. My vital stats get me into a UK 12-14, dependant on the cut & fit of the clothes store I buy from. If that makes me pudgy then bring it (and the cake) on! But I can run 10K in under 60mins, a better time than a (taller, size 8) colleague.
running bunny, Salford,