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Two weeks ago, in this newspaper, India Knight wrote: “What amazes me most of all is the sweetly retro notion of mooching around pining for Mr Right, as the clock ticks away. My advice to all my girlfriends, and to you, should this ring a bell, is: just do it. Get pregnant. Don’t wait. Mr Right can turn into Mr Wrong overnight: there are no certainties.” But just how sensible is this? Two women, in very different situations, suggest it might not be as simple as all that.

Sarah Marchant got pregnant at 35 in the early throes of a relationship. Two years later, she found herself with two boys under two and no home, no boyfriend and no job
I read India Knight’s piece and was amazed. Was she honestly suggesting that women rush into having babies, with no thought to the reality that will loom if you don’t have a home, a boyfriend or much money?
I was in the early stages – very early stages – of a relationship when I discovered I was pregnant. From that moment, I felt I just had to go for it, partly because I was approaching the milestone of 35, when a woman’s fertility famously drops, and partly because I didn’t want to be one of those “old mums” India talks about (not that I actually knew any at the time). Fortunately, the baby’s father seemed to take all of this in his stride, and soon we found ourselves with two little bundles of joy. But then, we split, and I was on my own with two under-twos and a mass of fear. Where was I going to live? How were we going to cope financially? I had had to give up my career in television to care for the babies. How was I now going to manage this on my own?
I was incredibly lucky in that I found somewhere to live through my extended family, and my ex agreed to some financial support. But the real difficulty came with the huge adjustment we all have to make as new parents. To have to do this on my own, along with the physical demands of two young children, nearly finished me off at times, and has required the deepest tapping of all my inner reserves to help compensate for the fact that dad isn’t around. There is rarely any respite for a single mum and I remember this relentlessness hitting home when I went to stay with some friends. Sweetly, they offered to look after the children in the morning. As I lay there at about 8am, lazily drifting in the knowledge that I had another hour or so in bed, the darling husband came in with a tray full of breakfast and I burst into sobbing, body-wrenching tears, as I realised I hadn’t had a lie-in for about a year and I certainly couldn’t remember the last time I’d had a cup of tea brought to me in bed.
It would be so much more bearable if there were someone there when I emerged, grubby from the coalface, at the end of each day, someone with whom I could have a little off-loading moan, or on whose shoulder I could have just a tiny, pathetic sob, who might then make a few totally unhelpful observations or suggestions before disappearing off to watch television and order us a takeaway. Someone who is around at the weekends, who actually rather enjoys taking the kids to the play barn for an hour or so while I go crazy in the luxury of a long, morning bath. Someone to harrumph with at 4am as to whose turn it is to tend to a fretful child for the umpteenth time that night.
It’s going to be very difficult to find someone I’m happy to share my life with again, and anyway, I don’t want to take risks with men and relationships as I have my children to consider. Frankly, even having the time to find a boyfriend seems laughable just now, although I know it’s something I need to prioritise – for myself as well as the children, who need a positive male role model.
The reality is that I’m too shattered most of the time for anything extracurricular. I go out once or twice a month, and try hard not to drink too much (reasonably unsuccessfully) as I’ll be up early, whether I like it or not. I did manage a week’s holiday last year, without the children, so, yes, it really was a holiday. I’ve got to try to organise another, as I vaguely remember feeling reborn and full of joie de vivre afterwards – for about a week.
I suppose we have to weigh up so many things to decide when the time is right for children and I simply wasn’t ready when I was 25 (which India suggests is the “right age” to go for it). All my energies went on my career and social life, and I was enjoying my new-found financial independence. I wasn’t mature emotionally at all, and although I’d had one or two serious boyfriends, there had been nobody with whom I’d wanted to settle down.
In the end, my hand was forced as I found myself having to go for it aged 35. I have survived due to a certain amount of luck, a lot of physical fitness (I’m actually in better shape than I have ever been) plus a bit of emotional strength boosted by a great deal of counselling. But this is not for everyone. Why not wait a bit longer if it means you are able to draw on the strength a loving relationship provides, or to have a little more financial security or a little more personal maturity? As any parent will tell you, as this little bundle of love crashes into your world and your life changes almost out of all recognition, for ever, the more secure you can be, the better.

Kate Spicer always hoped for a long-term partnership and kids, but at 38, finds herself single and childless. She explains the choices she has made along the way
If, in time, a Britain evolves in which the 17-year-old me, who got pregnant the night before her second economics A-level paper, could have given birth to a child with my first and ill-suited boyfriend, and still retained the freedom and fulfilment of potential we value for women in our society, perhaps having babies in your physical prime would become ideal again. Occasionally, I have some overwhelmingly powerful feelings about the potential lifetime I aborted, because at 38 years old, single, and childless, it looks as if that might have been my only chance. My son would be 20 now. Would I have made something of my life had I given birth so young? The fact is, I didn’t think twice about the termination – middle-class girls were positively discouraged, by their own frustrated and unfulfilled mothers as well as female role models, from having children early. And I was not a bohemian kid about to break all the rules. When Tamara Beckwith was kicked out of Cheltenham Ladies College for having a baby at 17, I, like all the other girls floating even vaguely near her racy orbit, was deeply shocked. Having kids young was what the girls who left school at 15 with one CSE in home ec did. No, I did not even think twice about having an abortion, traumatic as the whole experience was.
As I stumbled into young adulthood, I remember having this magic age, 27, in mind, when I would start to aim for a long-term partnership, and then kids at about 30. But as my twenties progressed, it became clear that I was not easily given to making long attachments. The expectations of marriage faded and I just got on with living life as it happened – complicated, unpredictable, exciting, difficult and nothing like the organised view I’d had of it as a child.
I lived with two of my boyfriends in my twenties; but in my thirties, when the emotional, biological and practical urges to get pregnant began in earnest, I didn’t live with anyone. This is a significant cause of the continued “situation vacant” in my womb. I now knew that there would never be a right time to have kids; so instead, I started a reckless approach to contraception whenever I met men I felt love for. But making babies is not straightforward. The window of ovulation is small: if you aren’t living with someone and shagging frequently, it’s quite likely you’ll miss it, unless you’re cynically manipulating your diary around your egg’s travel plans. I am not a good planner. I never got pregnant.
Should I hang my head in shame admitting I had sex with men because I wanted to get pregnant, even though they were not actively complicit in my desire? You know what men are like: they just love the sex. I never lied; I always let them know they were about to have unprotected sex. Two years ago, while having a rackety affair with an intelligent 27-year-old, I remember saying to him: “I am not on the pill.” We went on to have unprotected sex regardless. When we had finished, I laughed at him and said: “Are you insane, doing that with a late-thirtysomething, single, childless woman?” He said, as quite a few men I have been in similar situations with have also said: “I don’t care.” Perhaps he panicked later.
Friends of my age are frequently working at maximising their fertility as if it were a mission to Mars – I don’t know that I have ever had the money, sperm or organisational skills to go at it like that. I never realised that babies, like mortgages, were something you had to save up, scheme and suffer for. I thought you just had them, ideally with men you love who would stick around in the old-fashioned way.
All my friends who gave birth before 25, and most of the ones who gave birth before 30, are single parents now. And I am 100% certain that would have been my fate had I had a child at 18. But single-parenthood seems better than no parenthood at all. And that, given my age, is a statistical likelihood I am not always able to confront.
To have a child is not my sole ambition in life, though. If it were, I would have said yes to the three male friends who have, in recent years, offered to father a child platonically with me. At its core, parenting seems to be about unconditional and nurturing love for the next generation, and that’s something you can give to a stepchild, an adopted child, godchildren, nephews and, in my case, much younger siblings – and, I hope, not just to thousands of cats. I try not to think of a childless future like that.
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having kids just for the sake of it seems odd to me as someone who has never wanted children. is the basic need to breed so strong that all sense flies out of the window? i just feel for the lady who had the 2 kids and is now on her own, it has reinforced my decision not to have any kids. women have other purposes than popping out kids, we as women need to start believing that too so we are not having kids just because we can ,and society says we should.
anna, london,
Posted a response earlierl, but must've got lost along the net somewhere:
Truly heartbreaking.
We forget all too often - Children have rights. A right to a mother and a father. They are not the property of their parents that can be attained at any cost. When will we ever learn this!!!
A child has as much a right to a dad as a mum, its not a perfect world, but atleast if you are going to bring a child into this world, have a heart to give them this for a starter...
This woman probably calls herself an educated adult, sleeping around having unprotected sex, does not sound like a very responsible thing (or a good parent thing to do either) (what about AIDs, HIV, STDs and what if you got pregnant with these diseases).
My advice to this lady, get some self-esteem, there are good men out there, be patient, love yourself and you never know you might even find a good man that will love you for who you are. But a right to a child none of us have.
Wish you all the best.
Johanna, Nice, France
As someone who has never wanted and baby and therefore never had one I would say - don't do it. Now I am older I am surrounded by older, divorced women who have found the family experience very negative.
Many people seem to think that they have a 'right' to children and that the rest of us have to pay for them. Wrong, this world is grossly overpopulated by humans, we do not need any more
P Lee, Jersey, uk
WHY? that is what women should be asking themselves, most people have children but do not ask themselves Why they want one. All the people I have asked this question of have no answer.
sarah, wellington, somerset
What, and they don't care who the father is? The identity of the child's other parent doesn't really matter (because it's not just "a baby", it will grow up and might want to know what happened to it's dad)? I find this quite selfish. My gut instinct is to wonder why they do not look into adoption. These children have no parents so they would be gaining one. A child conceived with a random bloke has two parents to begin with - as soon as the father is out of the picture, it has lost one. All this before it's even born, perhaps.
I don't know though, maybe adoption's a difficult proccess.
At least, these women should choose a man who is in the same situation, so the child will have two equally loving and committed parents.
Amy Allen, Manchester,
There is so much talk of the single mum's need for 'a positive male role model' for her child(ren), sigh. After x thousand years, let's get real and focus instead on the role model who left you and your child(ren) to it. Anger is not a popular take on this (or on anything much), but in the absence of anything else that is truly meaningful....
magadalen, oxford,
Many young women (not to mention men) just don't want children. We've seen our parents or our parent's friends go through horrible divorces, 'economic rationalisation' which has meant increasingly job instability for most, war and threats of more, corruption on a massive scale etc etc. It just doesn't seem like a world in which bringing another life into is a sensible idea. As it is, many of us are expected to put in 12+ hours days with our 'careers' so how would we find the time for them? Having been through the system, daycare is not all it's cracked up to be since it is mostly staffed by undereducated, sullen schoolleavers who don't want to be there but have no other choices. It's easier to have a cat.
Miriam, Sydney, Australia
I wonder if the man should financially support the women and her children's upbringing if he objected to her having the babies in the first place. Sure a the ale of the species should not be made to compensate for womens selfless acts. What if the father does not want emotional attachments with the offspring's. Forget the biological clock. The need and the means by which we select the so called respectable partner is flowed by the logics of society.Most of us feel that when we have great sex it means we are closer to ourselves and therefore feel the need to be emotionally attached the giver. Then when it becomes all to repetitive, the relationship breaks down. Now this attitudes will be passed on to the next generation where, social behavior will contradict the text book on bringing up kids, finding the ideal partner etc.
Being is single parent there is the responsibility of financially supporting the offspring which means working overtime for most, meaning no quality time with kids.
Sat, prague,
Different factors collude to the late-thirties childlessness, not necessarily the lack of a suitable and stable relationship with a man. In my case, the economics played a major role.
I went through phases of no or badly paid employment, which meant I could not secure the financial stability I craved, not only for myself but also for a child. I also endured a divorce in my early thirties that left me financially wrecked. I am now in a situation where I can just about manage for myself financially while my partner has decided to take up studying.
Being the major bread-winner right now, I cannot afford to give up a living to raise a family, despite the fact I would love to be a mum! In the cold light of day, I cannot afford a childminder and anyway why would I want to leave my kid with a childminder, having waited so long in life to be a mum?
I am therefore caught in a circle, but I can however hold my head high because the decision to have a child is not to be taken lightly!
Nathalie Hachet, Manchester, UK
If a woman is biologicaly capable of having a baby and wants one then for me there is no discussion as to whether she should or not.
Rebecca, Ormskirk, UK