Tom Whipple
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The day Tom left his family's terraced house in Leamington Spa for the last time was, his mother later recalled, nothing special. He was midway through his A levels and spending a lot of time on the computer - but that was normal. In fact, Barbara Weed thought that in recent weeks her sometimes fraught relationship with her son had improved. “He seemed more cheerful,” she said. “But I now realise that was because he had decided to leave.”
On returning from work, she found a four-line note on the doormat. Addressed to her and the family, it read: “I need to take an indefinite amount of time away from the family... Please do not contact me.” Although they know where he is, Tom has refused any contact with his mother, father, two brothers and his two half-sisters.
Tom, 18, calls the process he has been through “defooing” - freeing himself from his “family of origin”. The term was coined by the founder of the website under whose “malign” influence Tom's family say he has fallen.
Freedomain Radio (FDR), run from Canada by Stefan Molyneux, describes itself as “the largest and most popular philosophy show on the web”. But Ms Weed has a different description for it. She calls it a cult.
One of the philosophies of Mr Molyneux, himself estranged from his parents, is that adult relationships should be voluntary. Critics such as Ms Weed accuse him of poisoning the minds of vulnerable young people against their families. Ms Weed, a Labour councillor, has appeared on television, radio and in the press to denounce the man she believes is responsible for her son's decision - and for 19 other similar cases.
But in his first interview on the subject, Tom told The Times that he felt liberated by his decision.
“Love should not be imposed upon a child, like a chore on a ticklist: mow the lawn, wash the dishes, love your parents,” he said.
“I started to examine my relationships with people in my family, and came to understand that they weren't for me... I didn't feel like I was listened to by my parents. Whenever I tried to make my preferences felt, they didn't respond in an interested way.”
Since leaving home, Tom has begun a language degree, and lived or travelled with friends during the holidays. Although he sometimes feels guilt - “my mum has a way of pulling the heartstrings, but she is turning herself into a victim” - he says his life has improved. “I am freer to live my life and focus on being happy,” he said. “Do I feel that my mother loves me? That's something that's very hard to answer. I can tell you that I don't love her.”
Although Tom agreed to speak to The Times only on condition that Mr Molyneux was present, he denied that he was being manipulated in any way.
“I've been presented as this naive, passive, manipulable character,” he said. “It's offensive to me. When friends have asked why I am not going home at Christmas, they show curiosity and say ‘fair play'. They are impressed by the maturity, I suppose ... I don't think people appreciate the depth of analysis, objectivity and understanding that we go into on FDR in discussing ideas, thoughts and concepts.”
A previously obscure website, Free-domain Radio has been growing in popularity since it was launched three years ago, to the extent that Mr Molyneux was recently able to quit his job in software and rely on donations. Users pay $50 (£30) a month for “Philosopher King” status and are able to access premium forums. Much of the discussion centres on podcasts given by Mr Molyneux.
It was during one such podcast last April - still available on the internet - that a clearly distressed Tom phoned in asking for advice about his veganism and whether he was right to feel disgust towards people who eat meat. Within minutes the conversation had turned into an analysis of Tom's relationship with his parents.
Mr Molyneux can be heard saying that Tom's feelings towards animals may have come from witnessing someone in authority abusing animals. Last week Mr Molyneux was keen to emphasise that this had been only a thesis. “If Tom had said ‘that didn't happen', I would have said fine and moved on,” he told The Times.
But he didn't. In the podcast, Tom went on to talk about how his father used to shout at and kick the family cat. Mr Molyneux then used Tom's description of his father's anger in general to call his Dad a “f***ing arsehole”, who “gets off on bullying helpless, defenceless children”.
Next it was Tom's mother's turn to be lambasted by Mr Molyneux: “She knew he had sick and disgusting rages before they got engaged, [but nevertheless] married him, and said, ‘I'm going to give him children'.
When The Times suggested to Mr Molyneux last week that he had jumped to conclusions about Tom's family very quickly, he replied: “I know it was very quick... This was my 1,000th podcast of course, so it is some pretty advanced stuff. The question is not the rapidity, but the accuracy.”
Indeed, last week Tom was adamant that his decision to break off from his family was in large part because of his father's behaviour which, although never physically violent, scared him.
“Sometimes he would boil over into this violent rage. He would let it out by swearing, shouting, throwing things. He could trash a room very quickly. It would happen once a fortnight, maybe. My father would be very intimidating, my mother would be very submissive. It was very scary.”
His father, John, denies this. “I'm not a violent person. Trashing rooms? No. Rages? No. I think in any family there's always strife but this is so nonsensical it beggars belief. It is unbelievably hurtful. The whole thing has me questioning everything in my past. It has me doubting myself.
“What I hang on to is that Tom's brothers have been very supportive. They say they have had the same upbringing and haven't noticed this.
“I don't think my son is a liar, I think he is under the most appalling influence from that man, who I absolutely despise. The most important thing I can say is that I love Tom enormously and have great regard for him.”
Tom's reasons for breaking contact with his mother, who is now in the process of divorcing her husband, are less clear - and Tom answers differently at different times. Towards the end of his interview with The Times, he blamed her for “guilting” him into seeing members of the family and pretending to enjoy holidays. “My own sense of being wasn't being appreciated,” he said.
Although Mr Molyneux does not know Tom's family, he goes even further. “Tom's mother did not protect him,” he said, asking Tom to “jump in if I am wrong”.
“She married a man who was violent, had his baby and did not protect him from his rages.”
Ms Weed has heard this argument before. Describing her situation as like a bereavement, she denies the violent rages that Tom described. “My husband shouts a lot. It made me nervous enough to try to manage the children so that he wasn't angry with them. Sometimes things got knocked over, but I don't recall him trashing a room. It just didn't happen ... Oh, and I found the holidays boring too.”
If his mother is implicated by proxy, it is harder to understand why Tom refuses to see his siblings. He will not talk about his sisters, but mentions an occasion when, following a row with his mother, his elder brother texted to say that their childhood was great, and that he should stop being cruel to their mother. “He was making statements contrary to my experience, and also showed no curiosity,” Tom says. “Curiosity” and “introspection” are words that Tom uses a lot.
Mr Molyneux, who spoke to The Times on condition that the entire interview was recorded, says that he has been portrayed as a “brain-tentacled ogre manipulating people through the internet”. But he is not surprised by the reaction to his ideas. “When feminists first began to speak about abuse within marriage, every abusive husband started screaming ‘feminazi',” he said. “If I advised a wife to leave an abusive husband, there would not be articles about how I am a cult leader.”
Ian Haworth, of the Cult Information Centre, has been following Freedomain Radio. He says that one of the first signs of a cult is that it cuts people off from their families.
But in other ways, the definition is less of a good fit. The website is just that - a website - and has no physical existence. Although Mr Molyneux makes money from it, he does not get rich from it, and most of the estimated 50,000 users are not regulars. As Mr Molyneux points out, only 20 of those users have “defooed”.
After the interview, Mr Molyneux e-mailed some of their stories, which included allegations of physical and sexual abuse.
The key claim of Mr Molyneux's critics is that sometimes he is willing to bend the facts to suit his theories - to occasionally dire effect.
Although they discuss their problems over the internet, Ms Weed is one of the few “defooed” parents to speak to the media - many of the others believing that doing so will further alienate their children. She is fatalistic about her chances of being reunited. “Tom wants to be someone who ‘defooed'. I wonder in a way if it's got slightly out of hand and he realises he's exaggerated, but he doesn't want to lose face,” she said.
Last week Tom gave little sign of wanting to rebuild his relationship with his family.
“Before I see them again I want to know what kind of commitments they are willing to give to a relationship with me. I feel I require certain virtues out of a person. I have had 18 years with these people: I didn't like the way I was raised, and they didn't earn my respect. If they haven't been into therapy, haven't had this kind of introspection or been honest with themselves, then what's the point?”
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Wow! What an extreme situation!!! An 18 year old leaves him home and family ... this must be a cult, no question! And 19 other people have left their families!!! What is this world coming to? Please keep us posted on this abnormal and fascinating story as it develops!
Shepard Humphries, Jackson Hole, US
It seems that all the commenters saying that Tom should "grow up" are ignoring the fact that relationships should be voluntary. Tom is not required by any mystical law to love or enjoy his family, and thus should not be held accordingly. He has grown up, enough to know that his life is his own.
Caleb, Gallatin,
What is noticeable is Tom's repetitive references to what "he needs" from his family. Language such as "I require," "what commitments they [will give] me," "my needs," "my preferences," are typical of teenage self-centeredness. Tom needs to grow up and realize that he isn't owed perfection by NE1.
Tava, Denver, USA
I don't see how Tom's parents could claim to simultaneously have so much respect for Tom and so much disdain for Tom's interests.
Stephen, Norman, United States
Like Tom, I did a similar thing, in respect to my parents. I too separated from my parents, for 8 years, over religious and dysfunctional family issues. There are very good answers available. I will pray to the God found in the Bible, that He choses to provide the entire family what is needed.
Pat, Littleton,
I feel so bad for this poor kid. I can see why he left. What kind of parents make this big of a deal over something that is completely normal and healthy? I think Stef should be seen as a hero, not a cult leader.
Charles, Highland, United States.
Authority is always something that must be earned. To claim that it is not circumvents the real issue at hand: a breakdown in communication. Indeed, parental claims of "authority" are often the causes of such failure to communicate.
Richard, Atlanta,
At age 20, I "divorced" my family. 12 years (and an M.A. in Clininal Psychology) later I attempted reconciliation...but my family was still unable to engage in mature, constructive dialogue ...and still emotionally and behaviorally dysfunctional. I haven't spoken with them in 23 years. No regrets.
Jeff, Palm Springs, United States
Parents are due respect, because they are in authority of their children. Unless there is abuse, respect of their authority is not something that must be earned.
Pete, Madison, USA
this is a pity. an 18 year old is unlikely to understand how it feels to be a parent, all the while imagining that no parent could understand how it feels to be 18. Tom should live his own life, but can he imagine how punished his parents feel? we should beware the effects of too much individualism.
john, london,
You have to earn the love and respect of your children. It's not a given.
John Kantor, St. Petersburg, United States
Why is it seen to be such a negative thing, for someone who has been brought up in a certain environment, to want a break from that environment? This is more than a teenage fad- it's something that we all need sometimes- but we're told that it is 'impolite' or 'being ungrateful
Shannon , Brisbane, Australia
Looks and sounds like a rather typical dysfunctional 'modern' family. The part where is gets suspicious and sets alarm bells going is 'Labour cllr'. Meddling party dogma and families occasionally do not mix.
Robert Henry, London, UK
An arrogant "I can't stand my parents - they don't understand me" teenager wants to get away from his parents? Amazing.
Joel, Phoenix,
This is a mountain from a molehill. Its NORMAL for teens to rebel & often rebuff their parents, its just this has been done rather publicy (no thanks to mum!) I worry the publicity may cause reluctance on Tom's part to make up with his family. But moving out at 18 is normal - he's an adult after all
Sophie, Devon,
I listened the Tom's part of the podcast. I felt that Tom was a very sensitive lad who called to talk about he struggle with caring for animal issues more than human issues...I think he would benefit from some (non FDR) therapy. If he then still chooses to remain estranged from his family, so be it
charlie, London,
David, Otago. I agree entirely but at £30 a month subscription I doubt very much that he needs any further income!
Andy, Newcastle, UK
Stuart is partly right here. Most young people are ready to leave home by 18. Everyone here is getting very dramatic, with Molyneux sticking his nose into business that isn't his. He has too much time on his hands, why not get a proper job?
David, Otago,
All 18 year-olds are in a period of crisis with their parents and trying to strive for independence. This man simply preys of those emotions in order to trap people into his cult and, as is always the case, to make money off of them.
G-d told us to honor our parents, not to love them.
Stuart `, Columbus, United States
Hooray for Tom! It used to be the norm for people to hit the road when they turned 18. It's a wonderful decision for him to get out of the house and seek his fortune. It's unfortunate that he had to burn so many bridges to do it.
tassy, The Woodlands, USA
Leaving truly abusive parents is a good thing, but telling difficult parents from abusive ones can be harder than it seems and Mr Molyneaux seems to be helping to confuse the issue. Part of growing up is realising your parents are normal people with positive and negative traits like everyone else.
John, Glasgow, Scotland
Maybe Tom feels he is grossly misunderstood by his family. His departure may have been dramatic, but sometimes our gestures MUST be dramatic in order for others to sit up and take notice. Separating from family and having an ADULT relationship with them on your own terms takes guts and maturity.
Dean, Los Angeles, US
Teenagers are prone to extremes. Hormones are raging and often times the child goes out on his own to become an independant person. Given time though, the novelty of this new family will wear off, the person will mature and see where his family was coming from. Happens every day.
Sally, Odessa,
How self indulgent can our children get? Families are the bedrock of civilization itself. Break that down and we all become a bunch of unattached and unapproachable individuals. That is not a society that is chaos. The only thing we can take beyond the grave is the relationships that we forge.
Paul Bahre, Granby CT, USA
Ms Weed is not alone - my son has been manipulated in precisely the same way and there is no history whatsoever of any kind of anger, violence, misuse or abuse in our family. It has devastated our entire family and is a continuiing nightmare. A different person is involved but the result is the same
Riley, Bradford, England
Growing up with an, at times, shouty dad may leave its marks but the dramatic cutting off of all contact is not a proportionate response. If Tom also remembered all the care also given to him by his parents, he could develop some gratitude to help heal his pain and be kinder and more balanced.
Margarite, dublin, ireland
I agree with Brownie a bit. I think Colin is being too simplistic & Tom needs to do some growing up. Parents do guilt some, get mad some, and don't always make decisions kids like, but they usually try their best, sounds like he needs to be a little understanding and grow up. Hope it works out.
Lee, Cadiz, OH,
shes a labour councillor. Now thats a terrible cult she belongs to. Nuff said
NEIL, London, United Kingdom
If I were one of the parents in question I'd divorce myself from the son - and tell him that only his siblings would share in the family support/inheritance unless he apologises. They should move on and leave him to stew in this fraudulent philosophy.
Giles, Sleaford, UK
Colin. Yes, abusive parents destroy families, but don't be too one-eyed on this matter. Cults also have a hugely destructive impact. As to whether or not Freedomain Radio conforms to the (accepted by many) criteria of being a "cult", I would rather take the informed word of Ian Haworth than yours.
Moose, Halstead,
The accusations of it being a cult are quite baseless, the "cult" doesn't destroy families abusive parents do.
Colin, Chicago,
poor tom, I cannot begin to understand the pain he is going through. why does his mother feel the need to broadcast his personal life to the media? I would say its probably because she cant come to terms with the fact that shes a horrible parent and needs to pass the blame on to Mr. Molyneux
aaron, barrie, canada
It's a bit of a mess isnt it? It's tough coming to terms with our families and their effect on us. But real maturity involves understanding and more importantly, accepting that everyone has their own path to follow. Even our parents! My wishes for a happy ending.
Brownie, Melbourne, Australia