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Catherine Deneuve is 64 in October and hardly desperate to deny it. As she dryly points out, “there’s not much point. It’s on record.” Dressed in an old green Prada tie-dye effect sweater, camel corduroy trouser suit, a Fendi wicker and tan leather bag, loafers, tinted spectacles and a perpetual wreath of cigarette smoke, she is still arrestingly, uncannily beautiful.
Not the waif she was in those early films (that would be a bit creepy) but the legs are still good, the features fine and the artfully layered hair luxuriant, though not the flaxen blonde it was in the 1960s and 1970s (that would be creepy, too). I’ve heard rumours of surgery, but can’t detect the frozen wastes of Botox and she seems nonplussed by the suggestion. “Actresses have to be able to frown.”
She prefers vitamin injections and twice monthly visits to Françoise Morice, a facial masseuse at the Institut de Beauté in Rue François 1er, Paris. Apart from that she swears by fresh air (she spends weekends at her house in Normandy, gardening and walking), does Pilates, eats carefully (although she’s wolfing more of those biscuits than I am but then I don’t suppose the French do wheat intolerance) and mostly avoids the sun. And, yes, she knows that smoking is not ideal, but she tries not to inhale too much.
Why Deneuve didn’t go the way of Elizabeth Taylor or even Julie Christie, who has admitted having a facelift and to hating the ageing process, is debatable. She attributes it to her mother, Renée Deneuve, an actress, who is still alive at 96 “and amazing. Her energy is something I’ve been blessed with – so, on the whole, I’m not frightened of ageing.” She was, she says, aware of her exceptional looks early on and talks about them with enviable dispassion. “Being one of four sisters, all pretty, with a good-looking mother meant we had more impact than if just one of us had been beautiful.”
Being in demand professionally must help. Remarkably, the work never dried up, although critics have argued that much of it has been unworthy of her. One suggested she lacked confidence. “Probably a good thing,” she retorts, “given how narcissistic actors can be.” She has just finished recording the English language voiceover for Persepolis, a black and white animated film about the Iranian revolution, in which her daughter by Marcello Mastroianni, Chiara Mastroianni, also stars and which took the Prix du Jury at this year’s Cannes Film Festival.
Her presence at fashion shows is as sought-after as ever. Wisely, she is stinting with that particular benediction, confining it to just a few favoured designers such as Alber Elbaz at Lanvin, Stefano Pilati at Yves Saint Laurent and Louis Vuitton. And she adores what Bruno Frisoni has been doing with those Roger Vivier buckled shoes that she wore in Belle de Jour. But it was the original, troubled genius at Yves Saint Laurent with whom she is indelibly linked.
She was introduced to him by David Bailey. She wore a red and white YSL when she met the Queen in London, and chose him to dress her in Belle de Jour. “I think I knew even then that there was something subversive about those impeccable designs, which suits the film perfectly.” Like Hepburn and Givenchy, theirs was one of the great artistic fashion-film alliances. YSL’s stylish carapaces (and his decision, against Deneuve’s instinct for miniskirts, to keep the skirts and dresses knee-length) helped to make the film both unforgettable and timeless.
Previously, Deneuve has alluded to the burden of always being photographed and of always having to live up to a 40-year-old image. But to-day, sipping endless espressos (probably not a good beauty idea either) and elegant in a large armchair (we are in the Latin quarter in an airy salon above a cinema that she helped to design), she seems insouciant.
“You catch me on a good day,” she shrugs. “I’ve just come back from a week sailing, swimming, diving. I feel very relaxed. I’m even a little brown. I wouldn’t normally take the sun, but for a week I wanted to live like that.” She flips a leg over the arm of a chair and I can see the ice queen is wearing a jewelled ankle chain.
Why am I talking to the woman that the film writer David Thomson calls “perhaps the greatest cool blonde, forever hinting at intimations of depravity”, about being a role model for older women, when she has an oeuvre of more than 100 films and almost 50 years of acting history behind her?
Partly, because her people had said that was all she would agree to discuss – that and her involvement with Al Gore’s Climate Project, to which she donated part of the fee she received for the latest Louis Vuitton ad campaign. She’s in good company: Mikhail Gorbachev is in one of the others and Annie Leibovitz took the pictures – which may have been part of the bait: “Annie is so fast and so good – she cuts down that awful process, increasingly the case at my age, where the good photographs are far outweighed by the bad and you feel you have no control.” She is amused to hear about the fracas in Britain over Leibovitz’s misrepresented encounter with the Queen.
Given the interview vetting, it’s rather disconcerting that Deneuve has arrived on time without an entourage, announcing that she doesn’t wish to discuss climate change. “Why would anyone care what I’ve got to say about politics? What can I say that people don’t already know?”
For the record, she’s sceptical about being an older role model, too. Much as she admires Vuitton and particularly what Marc Jacobs has done there, she’s not convinced that attitudes in the fashion world have significantly changed in favour of older women. “I don’t think Vuitton would have chosen me to star in a fashion campaign – this one is slightly different.” But there does seem to be a move towards adulating more mature women, I suggest. The original supermodels are all working again; Sharon Stone has done ads for Dior. “But Sharon Stone is only 49.”
I don’t think Deneuve’s reputation for froideur is based solely on her performance in Belle de Jour. In her 2005 autobiography Close Up and Personal, she concedes that she’s had her moments, some perhaps aggravated by the depression from which she has periodically suffered. Not that she goes into much detail. “Marvellously opaque” is the press quote on its cover – the cover! But being opaque is a large part of why she’s such a legend. It’s no coincidence that although her contribution to Belle de Jour was initially deemed inadequately blank it turned out to be exquisitely judged.
That fetishistically pale Hitchcockian hair, allied with the whey-coloured skin and inscrutably regular features are the other reason she has always seemedm slightly other-worldly. “Oh, that blonde,” she says. “What a bore it was. And, oh God, the upkeep – I had to have it peroxided every week [she is a natural brunette] and it had to be blow-dried all the time.” She dyed it to please Roger Vadim, the director with whom she moved in when she was 17. “Well, no one’s perfect,” she remarks dryly. “Actually he never directly told me to. But back then, I was probably preempting what men wanted. Now you can be what they call a dirty blonde. I like that.”
Ah yes, Vadim, by whom she had a son, Christian, when she was 20. She and Vadim parted not long after (perhaps that’s why she was back at work filming Les Parapluies de Cherbourg two months after the birth) and Vadim pitched up with Jane Fonda. Then there was Bailey, who shot her for Playboy yet, despite that, managed to marry her – the only time she succumbed to the institution. Mick Jagger was the best man.
There followed an affair with Marcello Mastroianni (her co-star in A Slightly Pregnant Man), and then a Hollywood fling with Burt Reynolds. Although Mastroianni remained married to his wife, Deneuve was at his side when he died in 1996.
In 1973 she signed the Manifeste des 343 Salopes (the Manifesto of 343 Sluts) against antiabortion legislation, a brave admission that she had had an abortion. “Yes it was brave,” she says.
Her life has been far from conventional and not without its tragedies either. In 1967, her sister Françoise Dorléac, also an actress and to whom she was very close, was burnt alive in a car accident; she regrets not having been more mindful of money and I think deep down she was troubled by her experiences on Belle de Jour.
“I felt very exposed, in every sense of the word, but very exposed physically,” she wrote in her autobiography, “which caused me a lot of distress.”
But not today; she is happy that she has three grandchildren, plenty of work, a lover (“it’s very hard to be on your own”), and happy that she can walk around the streets near the flat in Saint-Sulpice where she has lived for 25 years, largely unencumbered by paps. She is especially thrilled by the tiny coffee spoons she has sourced for the salon. “Normally coffee spoons are so big, don’t you find?”
I’d been so busy mulling over David Thomson’s quote about her hints of depravity that I hadn’t noticed the spoons. “Did he really say that?” she says, throwing back her head and laughing. “Those were the days.”
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I never said she is/was not a very beautiful woman but I was shocked to see her, interviewed by Charlie Rose, on US TV a year ago, skin stretched to the limit, bunny faced and totally void of any interesting thoughts.
A good, but not a great actress. Sorry J. Fletcher, Canterbury,UK !
bob, quimper,
Catherine is and always was an absolute classic beauty, and I love her sly sense of humor and earthiness. It would be fun to know her as a friend.
Barbara Begley
Mill Valley, California
Barbara Begley, Mill Valley, California
Catherine Deneuve is one of the two most beautiful, senior women in the world - I'm married to the other one. I just love the way she deals with the crappy press. Reign on Catherine, you are sublime.
Jim Hatch, Acapulco, Mexico
She is a natural beauty but is not growing old gracefully. Lisa Armstrong cannot detect "the frozen wastes of Botox" and doesn't seem to think she's had a facelift either.... to me it's obvious she's had both! What a pity.
Val, Paris, France
Catherine Deneuve - Hauntingly beautifull and one of the great French actresses.
Charlie - Worcester
Charles Murray, Worcester, UK
Oh come on, Bob. She is one of the most beautiful women in the world, and in the hands of a great director like Bunuel or Truffaut is capable of great acting. Her perfomances in "Belle de Jour" and "Le Dernier Metro" will remain one of the finest by a woman in cinema history - all the more powerful for being understated.
J.Fletcher, Canterbury, UK
and this interview was made on a "good day '?
Deneuve here face is ruined by an over streched lift. She looks like an Easter bunny.
bob, quimper,