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I was interested in the letter you had from a 5ft 2in woman from Canada. I, too, am 5ft 2in (size 8 or 10) and find that it has become almost impossible nowadays for me to find any clothes that don’t come down to my feet and aren’t too large in the waist. I search in the petite ranges of course, but they always form a minimal part of any shop’s range and “petite” does not mean in fashion terms what it does to me, ie, a small, short woman. Not only is the sizing curiously large but there seems to be no realisation that a small woman does not look good in clothes with large patterns, chunky shoulders or fussy shirts. What has happened? I never had any difficulty until now. I’m not young any more but still look young (so I’m told) so I should have a wide choice. I wonder if you ever go shopping with a 5ft 2in woman?
Dear reader, I too, am 5ft 2in, so I go shopping for a small woman all the time and I have a daughter-in-law who is even tinier and we do not seem to have such a dreadful time of it (though it is only fair to add that I am a size 10-12 and not a size 8). But both my daughter-in-law and I are resigned to having to have some alterations done quite often. I frequently have to have hems put up or sleeves shortened but I guess that’s the price one has to pay for a high street that on the whole gives us clothes at unbelievably low prices. The great advantage of current fashions for very short skirts is that many of the dresses around at the moment may well be mini-length on the 5ft 10in beanpoles their designers have in mind but they look utterly decent on people of our height.
If you shop on the internet you should take a look at a website (www.petiteaffair.co.uk) which was started by Debbie Major, a banker, who had the same trouble finding clothes that fit as you do.
The problem with the site is that nothing on it is very fashionable, but the clothes do come in small sizes. So I’d look on it for certain basics, such as trousers, and there are some good tops, in particular an attractive red jersey one with a twist around the bust that stops it being too dull.
Other labels that go down to a British size 8 are Monsoon, Jesiré (stocked by the John Lewis group), Reiss, Vera Wang, Issa, Diane von Furstenberg while agnès b is always worth checking out. Marks & Spencer does things such as trousers and coats in small sizes and short lengths and it has plenty to offer in plain colours.
But what have I found for you this week? I am in love with the Pringle label. I think Clare Waight Keller has done a stunning job in reinventing the brand and I want almost all of it. The only problem being that, on the whole, it’s alarmingly expensive. But I’ve found an elegantly simple black jacket and skirt from the slightly less costly Pringle 1815 label. The jacket comes in a size 8 or 10 and it is in the sale on www.net-a-porter.com for £150, reduced from £250 while an elegant black skirt is £148, reduced from £185.
If you like a slightly funkier label, Marni often caters for small women, so you could check out the store in Sloane Street, London SW3. For high days and holidays I think it's hard to beat this fantastic red dress by Marni. Made from 75 per cent silk and 25 per cent viscose it comes in an Italian size 38 (UK size 6) and upwards. It is not cheap at £770 (from www.brownsfashion.com) but you could wear it to any smartish event. I think it is gorgeous.
And finally from agnès b, David Downton has drawn a looseish white dress with black edging. As you are so tiny you could belt it with as big a black belt as you think suits. For winter, wear it with a black polo-neck sweater and thick opaque black tights and in summer, wear it on its own. It’s £175 from agnès b shops (020-7520 6915), where you should find quite a lot of choice for women of your size.
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Same problem here. So called "Petite" ranges still have 30" waists and call themselves a 6.
Ebay is the answer, with the search settings allowing sellers from overseas, because America does a much better range of small sizes AND most sellers list the ACTUAL measurements: waist, chests, length etc or will tell you them if you email.
Plus much cheaper.
Also they still do shoes IN HALF SIZES!
The huge problem with sizes in the UK is that they bare no relation to anything. If the EU want to do something useful they can pass a law that says a dress size 8 has to have a waist size of such and such and a bust size of so and so, and so on.
Thalia, London,
This won't work for everyone admittedly, but if you ever get the chance to go to Singapore, go shopping. All the clothes are tiny - you'd be spolit for choice.
Rach, Birmingham,
How about starting with fashion models. If a model is supposed to be modelling ordinary fashion then the model should be ordinary hight and build. If the clothes are sold as 5ft 2 in then the models should by law not be allowed to be above that height.
It is many years since car adverts were allowed to stretch the pictures to make them look more appealing to buyers. Why is the fashion industry allowed to continue their fraudulent advertising?
I ask this as a male with no axe to grind , merely curiosity about the ways of the law makers and enforcers.
D Cage, Highworth, Wilts UK
I have been 5ft 1" since I was about 16 and I am now 50. In that time I have been able to find clothes to fit me and suit me in the cheaper High Street shops like McKays and Peacocks and yes I have had to turn up trousers but it's easy with the iron on hemming tape. Mostly I go for sporty casuals and cotton hoodies look best on me. As an artist I am good at coordinating colours but I have had to dump any ideas of following fashion to the letter. Some fashions just dont suit but that is the time to read the trendy colours and put your own look together with a bit of imagination.
For much of the winter I have worn an eggshell blue Nepal hat with plaits, pale blue fingerless leather gloves with silver studs, a mink brown fleece, speckly chocolate brown trousers from last years pegs and comfortable trainers. Heels are not comfortable or safe at my age.
Yvonne, Cambs,
I 'm a size 10 petite in the US. I like the Liz Clairborne, Ralph Lauren, Jones New York labels for suits, skirts, pants and tops, and most do not require alterations and these brands can be bought in Macys, Lord & Taylor and Bloomingdales as well as many more stores. A suggestion to you ladies wanting to shop, why not come to New York on a shopping trip and pack your suitcases as most stores have huge selections in petite sizes and good sales too. Some department stores often add vouchers giving extra 15-20% discounts on top of lowest markdowns. It might be worth it and a fun experience. Good luck. Kate
Kate Sheridan, Bronxville, USA NY
Absurd prices! Really! Does the Telegraph think that only the filthy rich read their paper? Maybe it's time to change! M & S either trash or stodge!
Emily W, cambridge, UK
How nice to know that there are other tiny women about - can we have an exchange of ideas and solutions please?
Until I was in my forties, nearly 20 years ago, I found it easy to find something affordable to fit me (size 8 - 10) which was neither too young in style nor too grandmother-like. Also, until about 15 years ago there was a shop in Oxford Street which sold both "undersize" and "oversize" shoes, and very nice smart shoes they were too, for tiny women with tiny feet. That shop doesn't exist any more. So now I find it very difficult to find both shoes and clothes to suit a tiny middle-aged woman. Obviously I am not alone. Mostly there is only loud and vulgar - and ill-proportioned - stuff (for a grownup, though a very small one) in the children's departments. Is there somewhere we can have a collective rant? Just who decides which sizes "should" be on the high street? Maybe there are enough of us to make a difference? What do you think?
Julia Iskandar, London, England
The suggestions deal with small sizes but not short lengths and overall proportions. That is the real problem. The US is much better at this - Ann Taylor, Talbots, Liz Claiborne etc.
Elizabeth MacIntyre, Valencia, Spain
I am 5 foot exactly and weigh 112lbs and wear size 2 . shoes.I take easy way out and have virtually everything made for me and have.It fits. Nothing in shops ever does without alterations.
Since 17 ( now 39) i found the world is edge to edge in good dress makers and seamstresses and not all have to be top design labels either.
M McGregor, Tonbridge Wells, UK
I am 5 ft 1 and size 6-8 and find geting clothes to fit very diffficult. The suggestions made in the article are well beyond the reach of average folk in terms of cost, i like to look fashionable but not at these prices, some more realistic sugestiuons please.
sue, pontefract, uk