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WHAT THE ELLE: PART 1
Is it just me, or have I caught Elle Macpherson on a really bad day? It’s 9.30am, and as the 44-year-old businesswoman shooshes two yummy-mummy girlfriends out of her front door, there is a distinct prickle in the air. “Oh. Uh, hi,” she says briskly, ushering me in and bounding upstairs, all speckled spaghetti limbs, purple and green underwear flashing under her short Alexander McQueen sundress. “Don’t talk about the house,” she says. “In fact, don’t talk about where I live at all, please.”
We settle in her living room; herbal tea is ordered from a member of staff, all of whom look like oxygen-tent-dwelling New Zealanders: blonde, young, hot, fielding phone calls downstairs, sorting out iPods upstairs, constantly grappling, one imagines, with thongs. It’s very quiet — no mobile phones or doorbells allowed. “My BlackBerry is not even on vibrate,” she says.
She crosses her legs in a way that means business. “Listen . . .” she says, pointing to my note pad, “once you’ve done your bit, I’ll need it passed by me. Just so you know when you’re writing, there are going to be things we’re looking at. It’s really important that you’re responsible in your journalism.” Huh? She continues in clippy Australian tones: “I’m just managing a business, and businesses should be managed appropriately. I’m not here to talk about my life for the sake of it. This is business. You have a job to do and I have a job to do. It’s out of respect more than anything else. Certainly not out of mistrust. It’s just really important you print what your perception of the truth is, or as near to it as possible.”
Well, the truth is that, until now, I was really looking forward to meeting Elle Macpherson.
Like plenty of women who’ve ever dreamt about setting up their own business and watching it blossom into a £60m concern, I admired her boobs-and-balls-out approach. I admired the fact that, unlike all the other supes, by 26, Elle had long worked out that there was life after 30, and that she might need something more than her looks to pay for it. I admired the way she traipsed around America with calendars she’d made of herself to get started, then struck a pioneering licensing deal with a small company in New Zealand, which to this day manufactures her lingerie line, Elle Macpherson Intimates.
I also admired the fact that, having weathered one marriage, to the photographer Gilles Bensimon, at the complicated age of 41 she stuck it to another failing relationship, with the hedge-funder Arki Busson, the father of her two boys, and braved the world alone again. I liked her wholesome, gung-ho demeanour and the way she is still incredibly lush and sexy in an “anyone for a run along the beach?” kind of way, yet remains unpretentious about her looks. I envied the way she is still top billing at all the great parties — tonight she’s off to Elton John’s White Tie & Tiara Ball — and still a one-word wonder. I admired the fact that she was a brand before people could be brands.
So I’m puzzled as I sit here, not sure whether she’s going to burst into tears or walk out. She begins to talk at a canter about her business and life philosophy. She has the lingerie line, a new range of body products, a fresh contract with Revlon. I feel mildly relieved when she opens with: “There are probably seven key words that would describe my journey . . .” She pauses. “But I’m not going into them.”
We move on to her London life, how she shares the children with Busson, one week on and one week off. In the weeks with Flynn, 10, and Cy, 5, it’s the school run and homely moments. “I treat my children holistically,” she says. “I’m 100% present. We laugh a lot, do things in unusual ways.” She talks to them in French: she is bilingual from a long stint in France during her twenties; their father is French Swiss. After she’s put them to bed at 9pm, she “works globally” with her associates on the other side of the world until 1am. The business now employs 250 people — “although don’t quote me on that” — and has factories in China, which she’s checked out herself “to make sure no child labour’s involved”. She’s “very hands-on”, but has got to the point where she leaves the day-to-day designing to a team of 12. In the weeks without children, she gets to party. “My days tend to be longer and much more free-flowing,” she says. What a brilliant, postmodern arrangement! “It’s . . . an arrangement,” she says crisply.
Whenever I don’t ask the right questions — “although you’ve put a lot of thought into them, and I appreciate that” — she lapses into curt Meg Ryan “wrap it up” behaviour, bristling with some kind of peculiar anger or frustration. But I don’t know what the right questions are, so there’s “I think I answered that in your last question”, or, on the uncontroversial subject of how to survive business as a youngster, “I like having this conversation, but I don’t know if it’s the right conversation for this interview”. Finally, when I ask her to evaluate my correct bra size, she snaps, “This has been done to death, so I’m not going to do it. But I can tell you what it is.”
She makes me feel anxious, so I ask her if she is happy.
“I don’t believe . . . I find it really difficult because ‘happy’ comes from ego space: ‘Is your ego getting its way right now?’,” she says. “In philosophical terms, I would say that my life is amazing. I mean I always say that, I am enjoying my life, I have infused my life with joy.” But not happy? “I’m . . . fulfilled.”
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In the Aus media, interviews with Elle are sycophantic to say the least. She is pandered to.
Refreshing to read the truth for a change. I admire her achievements, not sure about the rest.
And, I felt anxious just reading it so can't imagine how sitting there was. Well done.
Jen, Sydney, Australia
I had exactly the same kind of experience when I interviewed Elle a few years back. She may be 'The Body' to her fans, but there's a reason why journalists call her 'The Body Corporate'.
MJ, New Zealand,
I love how the article was written. All of Elle's attempts to 'control' how she would be perceived in the article was completely self defeating. She should have just been gracious and tactful instead of condescending and obnoxious.
Christine, Vancouver, Canada
I have spoken with Elle a few times at the gym where she worked out strenuously. She was extremely down to earth and seemed to be pleased that I didn't know exactly who she was, other than someone who had prompted me to ask, "So, how far do you run, anyway?" After this she always said hello first.
Catherine Jones, Halifax, Canada
I admired the fact that she was a brand before people could be brands. pelé may put her in the shade a little. besides several dozen more folk. try seeing fashion as in the world as opposed to its own one.
blahry, london, uk
When my girls play dress up, pretend to be models sashaying down a runway and say "We want to be famous" I tell them it's not all as great as it looks. You see it so many times with very wealthy famous people. I feel sorry for Elle and hope her life is not as empty and painful as it looks.
Saadia , London, UK
She seems scatty to say the least.
And people who say that they are 100% present and holistic, I fear, have to say it to attempt to prove it to everyone.
Belinda, I whole-heartedly agree, an excellent, succinct piece of journalism.
RR, London,
Brilliantly written piece. Well done you and well done for surviving. She may think she has a business head, but clearly does not understand the role of the media in a free society. Who the hell is her PR agency, and why didn't they do a better client education job?
Belinda G, london,
Hey Elle, any chance of a date? if you don't ask...
Michael, Liverpool, UK
The woman is a complete looney. She is basically incoherent most of the time and you have to ask the question, why?
Lynne, melbourne , australia
Sounds like her intellect is dimming as well. What an uncomfortable person to be with.
William, Sydney, Australia
I find our different degrees of suffering quite interesting. For some suffering would be homelessness, violence, a lack of compassion and love. For others it is perhaps a profound sense of isolation. Should suffering shape the soul, one tends to wonder whether it could be quantified by personality.
Leo, Stellenbosch, South Africa
Wow--what a turn off. It's interesting that there was very little respect shown to this journalist, but Elle demanded respect for herself. Honestly, I think the 'celebrities' who bristle at being interviewed should just not bother with agreeing to it. Let the paps snap them coming and going.
Amy, Orillia, Canada
So you can't buy happiness with money or beauty. Sounds like you can't buy manners or intellect, either. Spoilt little madam.
Annie, Hampshire,
Good grief! Hell's belle! Reminds me of an interview I did with a bristling celebrity once. There is only one reason why interactions with such people are like sand-paper on one's soul - deep seated unhappiness and anger. In this case, Busson for sure.
Aria, Oxford, UK
I think the poor woman sounds quite unhappy, confused and jealous. This is one example of a bumpy road in ones personal relationships. I am hopeful she is able to love herself and return to the lovely person she once was (not that I would know). Get a grip, Elle!
Brook, London, UK
Any woman who spends her youth having her ego pampered by every person who ever comes into contact with her purely basis her looks will develop a whopping great ego. And that can be a right turn off. Looks can fade though....amazing how time can ravage the supposedly beautiful , leaving them hollow.
patrick, Singapore, Singapore
not sure how i ended up reading this, but the woman sounds like a headcase. have it all? pff, you jest, surely?
michael, manchester,