Sally Brampton
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Last year, at 38, I met a wonderful man. He made promises and shared big hurts: his lifelong fear of commitment, daily temptation by girls (he knew they weren’t the answer) and years of therapy. Two months later, over dinner, he told me he fancied the waitress and wasn’t sure I was right for him. I was devastated. He sent a loving letter asking for forgiveness. We talked about the waitress and “other girls”. He was adamant this was not something he wanted to act on, but something he needed to be open about. Then he disappeared for weeks. When we met, he was very cold, but invited me to Paris. Weeks later, he said he loved spending time with me but feared I was too old to have his children and that he had a “childish dream” of marrying a more stunning-looking woman, like Cindy Crawford. He said, “I don’t feel it’s over – I see us together in five years, but don’t know how to get there.” He is gone now, and I need help to move on. I blame myself. Would you say a little something to girls like me, dumped by someone with whom I felt I had a wonderful bond and exciting future?
Yes, I will say a little something. Take off those rose-tinted glasses. When a man is carrying a large sign that says, “Danger. No Entry”, pay attention. Don’t think you can change him. Don’t think he wants to change. If he did, he’d have done something about it (after all those years of therapy) and not picked on an innocent such as you. He’s not asking to be understood. He’s asking to be fixed. He wants unconditional love, no matter how badly he behaves.
Maybe his mother never forgave him for the natural self-obsessions of a child, or maybe he was never loved, so he needs to test every woman to the limits of forgiveness. Or maybe none of that is true. For whatever reason, he is a black hole of need, and that black hole will drive him to ever-increasing cruelty. Forgive one misdemeanour, and he’ll throw another at you. He’ll hurt you, just to prove his power (the waitress at dinner), then beg forgiveness because he has to be the centre of your attention.
Once he’s got you hooked again, he’ll manipulate you into fake emotional intimacy (“I’m so flawed, and only you understand”), but reserve the right to tell you his adolescent fantasies because it keeps you on your toes (“I won’t shag other women, but I’m going to tell you every last detail, just so you know I could – and might”). What he’ll never do is take responsibility for his behaviour.
You did not have a wonderful bond with this man. The only person he has a bond with is himself. He’s so narcissistic that it’s bordering on a disorder. That may sound unduly harsh – I wish I had space to print every example of self-obsessed cruelty listed in your very long letter – but perhaps the brief insight here is sufficient to remind you. A man who tells you you’re too old to have his children – note the “his”, here – and too unattractive is not a man, but a sad, damaged boy. Teenage boys have delusions about marrying Cindy Crawford; healthy, mature men do not.
He’s never going to commit, to you or to anybody else, because no woman is ever going to be good enough. Why? Because he doesn’t feel good enough himself. I know his charm and confidence make it appear otherwise, but narcissists construct a massive ego to defend a shatteringly fragile self-esteem. It’s a fatal combination, usually marked by manipulative charm and relentless cruelty.
I suspect your need to be loved is so great that you’re blind and deaf to reality. You see the charm, hear the false promises and then dismiss the hard evidence and blame yourself for his behaviour. A report from the University of Georgia describes the type of person likely to be attracted to men such as your ex as co-narcissists. “[They ] accept blame readily, are eager to please, defer to other’s opinions, and fear being considered selfish if they act assertively.”
You deserve much better. To move on and have healthy future relationships, you need to look at your emotional make-up. You may believe that you’re not worthy of love, so you accept any crumbs thrown your way. It may be that you don’t understand what makes a healthy relationship. Perhaps you need to look at the way loving people behave towards one another. Perhaps you might think about some counselling, or do some reading around the subject.
But, whatever you do, don’t believe it is your fault. If he were stealing money, we’d call him a con artist, but in this case, it is your heart, and a heart is a great deal more precious, as well as being irreplaceable, so look after it by absolutely refusing to connect with him. That line “I see us together in five years’ time” is not a promise. It’s a threat. If you don’t cut him off completely, he’ll go on hurting you and seeking absolution until he’s crushed you into the ground.
Helpful reading: Why Is It Always About You? The Seven Deadly Sins of Narcissism by Sandy Hotchkiss (James Bennett £7). You Can Heal Your Life by Louise L Hay (Hay House £9.99)
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Clearly this example of a narcissist is very typical as I too relate uncomfortably well. I became friends with a man at work & he involved me in his problems, I felt empathy & wanted to help. I knew he had treated women badly in the past but his manner convinced me that he was sorry & that circumstances had affected his behaviour; not everything was his fault.
We became close & started seeing each other. He then distanced himself without a word, forcing me to ask if it was over. Apparently it was. I was upset & found he was unable to empathise despite the fact we were supposed to be 'friends'. He then started to act very coldly towards me & frequently upset me with his insensitivity. Once even blatantly going off with another woman from work in front of me. I was devastated & he begged for my forgiveness. He swore he wouldn't see her if it would upset me.
I recently found out that he has been secretly seeing her. I'm debating whether to try to explain to him that he needs help.
Laura, Oxford,
My father is very like this man. Sadly, my mum-who fits the "co-narcissist" definition-still seems on some level to believe she can change him. People like this-narcissists can be men or women-do NOT change. They can't. They are very charming and pleasant to people they hardly know-in the street, down the pub, at church-but as spouses and parents, they are hell on earth. Everything is about them because the thing they hate most is not being the centre of attention.
What they do best is undermine other people's self-esteem. They play with other people's emotions because the only emotions that count-in their warped view of the world-are their own.
Narcissism isn't a rare thing. I'm glad it's getting talked about more now.
AMY SMITH, WIRRAL, ENGLAND
I too sensed an almost unreal sense that Sally was talking about my soon to be ex-husband. A man who treated me with scant regard from the moment I met him but who I clung to with such force that we ended up having a child together. He was damaged by an alcohlic mother and I by a domineering, distant father. But whilst I have accepted that I need to change in order to have a fulfilling relationship, he never will and I almost feel pity for this new girlfiend - if only she knew what was round the corner! I too felt I had a wonderful bond and exciting (possibly dangerous) future but with a narcisist nothing could be further from the truth.
maria b, london,
This is so like the relationship my mother is in, and she is over 80! I am currently trying to persuade her to leave but she 'feels sorry ' for the bloke, and finds the prospect of breaking away almost impossible, inevitably, after 25 years of living it. Every excuse she makes is as a 'co-narcissist' by the University of Georgia definition... She has all the Hay books without effect it seems - but I have ordered the other. I can also recommend Power and Control: Why Charming Men Can Make Dangerous Lovers by Sandra Horley: started making notes for pages that echoed my mother's experience, you've guessed it, almost every one. Here's hoping for a breakthrough.
Laura T, Horsham,
Crumbs, I read this and wondered if you were my ex's ex! I met someone last year who was identical to this. He claimed he left all his ex's because they were "grumpy", especially his last one "who got jealous of a waitress". Then I discovered why - no wonder, his mental cruelty and behaviour would make anyone 'grumpy'. Finally, he called me grumpy too after making comments every time I saw him which were designed to keep me on my feet. After a few months of some of the most bizarre behaviour I've ever known (which he either denied or put down to being "afraid" and with me foolishly thinking I could 'help') I told him it was over. And after a whole morning of criticism and digs at me what did he say after I finally pull the plug? "I really think we have a future together". It's pathetic.
There are *so* many narcissistic/full NPD men out there, it is frightening. Be grateful you got out and pity the poor woman who becomes completely ensnared and ends up with them.
Helen E., London, UK
I always enjoy reading "Aunt Sally" but the scenario described here really feels familiar. I recently experienced something very similar - a man who pulled me into his problems and constantly made me feel as if I were not good enough for a "real" relationship. I was hurt, but I have learned a hard lesson. Thank you for this information! It's easy, but destructive, to feel as if one is not worthy and to constantly blame oneself for bad turns in relationships. I won't be that person anymore!
Susan B., Atlanta, USA