Interview by Lisa Grainger
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Would I even vaguely have thought, when I arrived in London, that I might enjoy whipping men? That I might agree to cut them? To sit on their face until they could bear the suffocation no longer? To insert needles into their nipples? To make an art out of hanging them upside down or chaining them to a rack, then electrocuting them?
Of course not. I came to London to become a chef, to learn how to make sticky rice cakes and other pan-Asian delicacies. I wanted adventure, to travel, to escape the narrowness of Canada. But being a chef was nothing like I had imagined. Kitchens were boiling hot, masochistic places. I’d work 16 hours and collapse, only to do it again the next day. I felt unintelligent, unattractive and unfeminine. So I quit and tried to find something else.
It was at a party that someone told me about a magazine called Forum, in which dominatrixes touted for business. Out of curiosity, I bought a copy. Within a week, I had an interview.
Angel, my prospective madam, lived in a mock-Tudor house in north London and practised her trade from a granny flat in the garden. It turned out we had a lot in common. She was my age, and, like me, she was Jewish. She’d been to public school, her father was a prominent lawyer and she loved to talk, quite philosophically, about what domination was — the difference between degradation and embarrassment. Although I had no experience (when she mentioned a TV room, I expected it to be full of televisions, not transvestite gear), she liked me, and let me practise on her transvestite slave, who cleaned and tidied in exchange for a whipping. Soon I had my first client hanging by chains in the dungeon. Then another, and another.
I learnt everything there. I watched videos and I read. I experimented on clients using whips, chains and medical instruments, hung them from racks or locked them in coffins, in handcuffs or in cages. By last year, when I gave up being a full-time dominatrix, I’d seen more than 1,000 men. And earned somewhere between £50,000 and £100,000 per annum.
People often ask what sort of man comes to a dominatrix. Every sort — but particularly, in the places I worked, men from conservative communities who have no other outlet for their feelings. He might be 62, 48, or 18. He might be single, married, engaged, recently bereft. He might want to visit once a fortnight, once a week or just when he’s not shooting a movie, running his veterinary practice, closing business deals or playing football. For some, the £150 treat is only for birthdays. For others, it is a regular compulsion.
What is he looking for? Anything you can think of. He might want to wear a collar and be forced to do humiliating things by a sophisticated woman. He might want to be tortured, or to bring his own mask and tank of nitrous oxide to recreate a dental ordeal that was his first erotic experience. Play out fantasies about angora or pretty feet. Want ball-squeezing, a brutal whipping, bondage and teasing. To be caned. To stare at my shiny catsuit and thigh-high boots through the bars of a cage. To look at me wearing nylons, an army uniform, a cape, a smirk or a snarl.
Why does he come to me? Generally, because he can’t get what he wants at home. Because he knows I understand that he needs to be challenged, humiliated and pushed to his limits. Because he can pay me without questions. Because he knows that when he talks to me openly, I will be utterly discreet. Because I’m kind to him. I let him escape into a world that brings him happiness. Because I will give him the relief he can get no other way.
Why do I do it? That’s a complicated question, and probably one for the therapist’s couch. It’s not about violence or anger. It’s not for sex, certainly. Some dominatrixes blur the line and have sex with their clients. I never do. But I do enjoy it. I’m disciplined in whatever I do: my philosophy degree, ballet classes, writing. And domination takes great dedication and attention to detail. It takes care and love, sensitivity and kindness. If you don’t have those qualities, forget it. So many men tell me that some mistresses are only there so they can get off themselves, to find an outlet for their own power. To hurt men. For me, it’s not like that. Taking someone there is such a fulfilling thing -— and to get really into it, you have to be on that journey together.
People who don’t understand will compare what I do to prostitution. But it’s nothing like it. It would be much easier to give my body, but I’d never have full sex. Yes, the majority of men do come for sexual gratification (although about 10% don’t, because denying themselves that pleasure is the ultimate torture). Sometimes I might give them hand relief at the end. But it is just a part of his body I’m touching, and all within my role.
It doesn’t give me the thrill it once did. For five years, sometimes I’d see six men a day for an hour each. Or eight, for half-hour sessions, when I worked in a West End dungeon. It was exhausting. I was never one of those dominatrixes who made it a lifestyle, who was really into the scene, the whole aesthetic and apparel. For me, domination is not about dressing up, clubs and magazines. It is about exploring the mind — which I still do with three private clients. It’s about discipline. About understanding that, for some people, without pain there is no gain.
Besides, being a dominatrix was never going to be what I did for ever. My family will be pleased to hear that, particularly my mother, who has only just found out about my career. I’m from a nice, conservative Jewish area of Toronto; she’s a teaching assistant and my dad’s an accountant. She just can’t understand why her daughter would want to do what I’ve done — then write about it so explicitly. They think it somehow reflects on them; that people will think there was something wrong with them as parents.
Of course, there wasn’t. It’s all about me. It’s about exploring psychosexual possibilities. It’s about breaking barriers. It’s about understanding what it means to be human. But I suppose there aren’t many mothers who want to read about their child’s sexual experiences in such detail. Perhaps I was naive to believe that they’d understand. Or anybody else, for that matter.
Concertina: The Life and Loves of a Dominatrix by Susan Winemaker (Simon & Schuster £10)
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Oh please! What self-important drivel. Every Dominatrix thinks she is some sexual pioneer exploring the frontier. After hearing it again and again it becomes a bit of a bore.
Louie Monkey-Pest, New York,, NY, USA
Quoting from the article:
"And domination takes great dedication and attention to detail. It takes care and love, sensitivity and kindness. If you donât have those qualities, forget it."
How nice for the author that she has the ability to retain all of those admirable qualities whilst charging £150 or whatever her rate is for the privilege.
Many women who regard themselves as sexually dominant strive to achieve the same things for free. For that costs a great deal more and is a gift, rather than a trade. Sexually dominant women become increasingly fed up with their sexuality being described only by reference to Pro-dommes. Who may be the kindest and most sensitive nasty ladies in the world but they charge for it. This is not true sexual dominance; it is a bargain between two individuals.
We all recognise that prostitution exists, but are the best lovers in the world the tarts? I don't think they rank too high in the lists. We enjoy Fanny Hill but we love Juliet.
Polly Garter, London, UK
As a submissive male who has been to several professional female dominants and lived with one for two years I can say that it is an awesome erotic feeling to be stripped naked, tied tightly, made to kneel and then me whipped by her. It is somehow a cleansing feeling like no other to be under a ladies control and feel that you have no say over what she will do to your body, you obey her every command and thank her for the disciipline and punishment. In almost every male there is that desire to be used and abused in a sexual manner by a strong sexually attractive female. Jack
Jack, Tururo, Nova Scota - Canada
As one of Mistress Anna's (Susan Winemaker's) clients i can confirm one thing only; She had the very best ability to engage with me , to explore my wants selflessly, to deliver fantasy in the perfect and even enhanced form one had in mind. As such, the Lady now has a right to Her half of the fun, the opportunity for expression of what She felt during all this selfishness of mine and others.
Sable, London, UK
As one of the men, more or less, Susan describes in Her piece, i am in utter awe of Her self-awareness of Her position and Her articulate expression of it. No-one knows of my desire to kneel abjectly before a woman like Her, except someone like Her. Unless you've been there, you can't begin to imagine the intensity of the secret, of the ritual, of the deep psychological significance of a male's submission to a Woman.
Mark, sydney, australia
I very much enjoyed this article. It was nice to read about a female dom who wasn't in the "scene". Susan also seemed genuine and honest about what it takes to be an authentic dom. I agree that it is about "understanding what it means to be human". From what I've experienced and witnessed, those who choose this profession are taking on a serious responsibility. I plan on taking a look at her book as a result of this article. Many thanks to Lisa Grainger for taking the time to interview Susan!
Anais Delamour, Sacramento, California