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Thousands of British savers with Landsbanki Guernsey may not get their money back, it emerged today.
The bank, a subsidiary of Icelandic bank Landsbanki, which has been taken over by the Icelandic Financial Services Authority, did offer some of the best rates on offshore savings accounts. But now savers in both the UK and the Channel Islands are unable to access their money.
There is no deposit protection scheme in Guernsey, and Landsbanki Guernsey is not covered by either the UK’s Financial Services Compensation Scheme (FSCS), or Iceland’s protection scheme, because it is registered in Guernsey.
Deposits with Landsbanki’s UK based subsidiary, Heritable Bank, have been taken over by ING Direct, whilst UK customers of Icesave, the online arm of Landsbanki, have had all of their deposits guaranteed by the Treasury. But today a Treasury spokeswoman said the plight of British savers with Landsbanki Guernsey was “a matter for the Guernsey Government.” A spokeswoman for the FSCS, which guarantees deposits of up to £50,000, confirmed the scheme does not apply to banks based in the Channel Islands.
Desperate savers are unable to contact Landsbanki Guernsey and have only been provided with a short Q and A on the bank's website that states: “The Administrator will be working towards an orderly repayment to depositors... (but) we cannot say how much or when.”
Today an action group entitled “I want my money Landsbanki” was set-up, with thirty members signed up on the website. One Guernsey resident wrote on a message board: “We had £65,000 in a one-year bond with Landsbanki Guernsey after it advertised a 7 per cent interest rate. That was all our life savings and we are devastated. We just had a baby two weeks ago and now the joy has turned into a despair.”
Many British savers have been attracted to Landsbanki Guernsey due to its high interest rates - its 45-day notice account was offering 6.75 per cent - and the beneficial tax arrangements of having an offshore account, whereby savers can defer receiving interest income to fit around tax liabilities. Many offshore accounts are also specifically designed for expatriates.
But many depositors may not have realised that money held in the Channel Islands is not protected in the same way as UK-based banks.
This week the Guernsey Treasury and the Guernsey Financial Services Commission, the financial regulator, have been in emergency meetings to develop a new deposit protection scheme. “Firm proposals” for a scheme are expected in November, but it will be too late to cover savers with Landsbanki Guernsey.
A spokesman for the Guernsey Financial Services Commission refused to comment on the safety of Landsbanki deposits, saying only: “It is anticipated that Landsbanki Guernsey’s administration will help to ensure that all depositors in the bank, including those with deposits which can be withdrawn immediately and those who are locked into fixed term deposits, have an equal opportunity to have their funds returned.”
Today the Isle of Man Treasury Department announced it was increasing the deposit protection for both local and international savers from £20,000 to £50,000. The news came as the Icelandic Government took control of Kaupthing, Iceland’s biggest bank, which had an online arm, Kaupthing Edge, based in the Isle of Man.
Jersey has “a political guarantee” covering the full bank deposits of all Jersey residents whose bank is licensed with the Jersey Financial Services Commission – but this would not cover UK savers with money in a Jersey-based bank account.
Case study
David and Judy Cook, originally from Cheshire, retired to Cyprus fours years ago and were advised to put their savings in an offshore account for easier accessibility. They have £52,000 with Landsbanki Guernsey.
Mrs. Cook, 58, said: “My husband spoke to Landsbanki Guernsey a few weeks ago and it assured us that all liabilities were covered by its parent company. We tried to withdraw our money on Monday afternoon but the bank went into administration on Monday night so we were too late. That money is our life savings and if we lose it we will have to sell our house.
“I can’t get through to the bank in Guernsey but I spoke to someone in Iceland who was very vague about whether we’d be able to get our money back. We are desperately worried. It was my husband’s 60th birthday yesterday but we have little to celebrate.”
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Depositors must unite and seek seizure of bank or indeed Icelandic or Guernsey State assets over the next few years. It's every man for themselves and this will restrict the Icelandic State's room for trade.
Damian, Brighton, UK
there is a simple lesson here. In these times don't put your money in Guernsey(or Jersey?) if they are not operating a guarantee scheme.
The credit crunch is not over and no one( I believe) is truly abvle to predict the events of the next few months.
Steve Timms, edinburgh, UK
I cannot afford to bail out the Rich why should I a poor person with a small amount of money held in REGULATED onshore UK accounts which have poor rates of interest bail out the rich hiding their money overseas? Guernsey should be made to pay this money back along with Iceland this is an act of WAR
richard, brighton,
Today I have heard what I suspected, that Landsbanki Guernsey has been sending massive amounts of money to parent company in Iceland to prop it up. Also Guernsey financial regulators knew of it and were concerned but did nothing over two months ago. THIS IS UTTERLY DISRACEFUL!!!,. We must fight....
mike , london, uk
E Skelton - Please do your research before making such uninformed comments.
Suggest you read the forum on moneysupermarket.com, and get your facts right before judging people who "are" being responsible by saving their money, rather than squandering it and then expecting "welfare" from the UK govt.
Sue, Guernsey,
I have thousands of Tsarist roubles that became worthless in 1917. Is the British taxpayer going to honour those as well? I can't help openly laughing at those who sought to avoid all responsibility to British society and may now end up destitute. They should get their legal entitlement : Welfare.
Eric Skelton, Cardiff, Wales
Correction E.Phillips. If you check out the various blogs you will see that a huge number of those who lost money in Landsbanki Guernsey and now Kaupthing IOM are retired, formerly hard-working and tax-paying British Expats with sterling savings who've left UK and can't have onshore accounts.
Emabroad, Guadalajara, Mexico
E Phillips - if only what you said was true. There are hardworking UK taxpayers like yourself who have lost money in this - they were just chasing the best returns for their money. Guernsey now withholds the tax on UK deposits and returns it to the UK treasury.
Richard, Reading, UK
The Guernsey Government needs to do something fast in order to protect the local economy. Locals are losing confidence in their banks. (The Guernsey Post Office has ran out of application forms for Post Office accounts.) National newspapers are also warning savers not to invest Guernsey.
Anne, St Peter Port, Guernsey
mmm - I suppose those banking in the Caimans will also want to be bailed out by the UK taxpayers!
I am paying high taxes because I have kept my money here, onshore as I know taxes build hospitals etc. I dont wish to pay for those who have lived the high life, seeking out tax havens everywhere...
E Phillips, Guildford,
You say that Desperate savers are unable to contact Landsbanki Guernsey; this is incorrect, they are open for calls and in my experience have got through with 1 or 2 minutes.
Helen, st peter port, Guernsey
im a uk resident, i have only 3weeks ago invested £680.000 in landsbanki guernsey, i cant seem to get any answers as to if my money is safe or i stand to lose it all, can anyone advise me on my concerns??? surely there is something that we can do
s nuttall, bolton, lancashire
i put my pension lump sum of £125k into Landsbanki when i lost my job due to work injury at 30! This meant I gave up 25% of my incapacity pension payments.
As I pay 75% of my interest tax to the UK (only 25% going to Guernsey gov) why is the UK not offering any help to UK residence in ths situation
Paul, West Midlands, UK
I am also an expatriate from the UK. I put my life savings in this account as I could not have a UK savings account as I do not have a UK address. My husband is Dutch and we live in The Netherlands. The situation is quite astonishing as The Guernsey government appear to be totally disinterested.
Kerry Allen, Vught, The Netherlands