Marie Woolf, Whitehall Editor
Your last chance to get tickets to Top Gear Live
Ministers are preparing to allow people labelled “idiots” and “lunatics” by archaic laws to stand for parliament.
Though it may come as a surprise to voters, laws dating back to Elizabethan times bar this category of people from becoming MPs.
Idiots are defined as those “incapable of gaining reason” and lunatics as people only “capable of periods of lucidity”.
The rules ban lunatics from standing as MPs in “their non lucid intervals”. They also ban anyone sectioned under the Mental Health Act from standing for parliament, even if they have made a recovery.
MPs have to give up their seat for life if they are sectioned for six months.
Bridget Prentice, the justice minister, is to consult on scrapping the laws after complaints from MPs and mental health charities that they are discriminatory.
“People who have suffered mental health problems can function at a very high level,” said a spokesman for Mind, the mental health charity. “Look at [the actor] Stephen Fry. He has been open about his manic depression and people would be shocked if somebody like him were not eligible to stand.”
A survey of MPs found that 27% had experience of a mental health problem. One in three said the stigma had stopped them being open about it.
Explore your passion for food with the delights of Thai, Indian & Chinese cooking
In our new series, Tony Hawks takes a dry, wry look at modern life - junk mail, interminable meetings and snooty sales assistants
Read the training tips and advice that helped our London Triathletes
Read our exclusive 100 Years of Fleming and Bond interactive timeline, packed with original Times articles and reviews
The latest travel news plus the best hotels and gadgets for business travellers
Shortcuts to help you find sections and articles
2007
£30,000
2008
£44,990
2008
£48,489
Great car insurance deals online
c.£75,000
GlosFirstmeansbusiness
Gloucestershire
£32,795 - £41,545
Universitry of Southampton
Southampton
£
£32,795 - £41,545
Universitry of Southampton
Southampton
Competitive Package
Npower
West Midlands
Some of the finest Apts & Penthouses
Across London
Great Investment, River Views
Luxury properties within exclusive development in
Chislehurst Kent
A new experience in Luxury Living
Multi–Centre
from Only £829pp
With Ramblers Worldwide Holidays!
£POA
List your property with two leading travel websites
£POA
Great travel insurance deals online
Contact our advertising team for advertising and sponsorship in Times Online, The Times and The Sunday Times. Globrix Property Search - search houses for sale and rooms and property to rent in the UK. Milkround Job Search - for graduate careers in the UK. Visit our classified services and find jobs, used cars, property or holidays. Use our dating service, read our births, marriages and deaths announcements, or place your advertisement.
Copyright 2008 Times Newspapers Ltd.
This service is provided on Times Newspapers' standard Terms and Conditions. Please read our Privacy Policy.To inquire about a licence to reproduce material from Times Online, The Times or The Sunday Times, click here.This website is published by a member of the News International Group. News International Limited, 1 Virginia St, London E98 1XY, is the holding company for the News International group and is registered in England No 81701. VAT number GB 243 8054 69.
Removal of such laws that have never been adhered to or followed is the first step to a more open and saner government. It will serve to legitimize many leading political figures who would have otherwise held their positions under false pretenses. Acknowledging one's illness will admit the cure
Paul Fletcher, London, UK
"Winston Churchill and Abraham Lincoln both suffered from severe depression at times in their lives."
excellent point. we'd be without some of our greatest leaders and teachers
tyler, seattle, united states
To Roger of Esher:
If Gordon Brown is 'a lunatic' - what does it say for all of those around him?
Neal, Bournemouth, England
This one of the most ridiculous ideas from the Commons in recent times. The labeling of somebody in such a fashion is a total arbitrary system. Who is to decide it and legislate the label? There is no body or person that has the right to do so! Don't look for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee!
David Bailey, East Grinstead, UK
Winston Churchill and Abraham Lincoln both suffered from severe depression at times in their lives. It is not inconceivable that had they been alive today, either or both could have been sectioned to prevent them harming themselves whilst depressed, and the world would have lost great leaders.
Sue, Birmingham, UK
There is quite enough of Stephen Fry on television already without him getting on the MP's media gravy train as well!
MarkS, Leeds,
This is liberalism gone the extra mile in terms of stupidity. perhaps if this government actually stopped been so fascinated with scrapping everything that does not have a modern zest to it and feel and actually look analytically and sensibly at these laws, Britain might still be "Great"
Lee, London,
I think you will find this change is being proposed to allow Gordon Brown to remain as Prime Minister.
Roger, Esher,
It is this nulabor government, especially through its mentally disturbed and psychopathic cadre, that first accuse its detractors, critics and whistleblowers of being insane. This application of nulabor's control or destroy plicy goes even further, as nulabor actually attempts to induce insanity.
martin brighton, sheffield, uk
In the time that remains before those laws are abolished, let them be enforced to rid ourselves of those currently in parliament who are evidently of unsound mind bordering on the lunatic.
BazzaG, London, England
Why not? In my opinion, they are already in charge - and not just of the asylum!
S. Barraclough, Huddersfield, W. Yorkshire
We label people as having a weakness, they are not like us, we are 'normal', they are not. For the purposes of the 1983 Mental Health Act, promiscuity, any other immoral conduct, sexual deviancy or dependence on alcohol or drugs is regarded as 'normal'...makes you wonder what they are worried about?
Douglas Miller, Fulham,
Clearly a non-event since many of those in government, including the Cabinet, amply demonstrate that the existing laws are not enforced. Furthermore, once in, despite any past or existing mental health problems one can not only be elected an MP but also then be (un)elected) to the highest offices.
Tony, LONDON, UK
Fantastic idea lets put someone who thinks he is god in charge of Trident, these laws exist for a reason and as they keep proving Nulab do not know best.
Mitch, Wolverhampton, England
IF the old laws are absolished, who will notice the difference?
Dennis, Portland OR, US
I would have thought that there are many in Parliament already.
When I look at the laws and legislation passed over the last 11 years, it seems clear to me that no sane or reasonable person could have made many of them.
Mark, London, England
Look no further than Labour we have a whole bunch of them in that dreadful party. Look what they've done to this once, wonderful country, it makes me weep.
Samantha Jones, Bucks , England
Yes, let's put people with mental health problems in charge of a nuclear arsenal, and allow them to formulate foreign and domestic policy. Actually I think we already have.
Brian, Dubai, UAE
These archhaic laws are obviously discriminatory and should be banned any one could have a mental health problem at any time in their life its an illness not a crime I would urge affected M.P.s to speak out for themselves and to challenge all stigma within society then we might get real equality
Paul Davidson, Gateshead, England
Tony Blair has been quoted as being afraid to be labelled a Nutter'' it was implied Mr Cameron was calling Gordon Brown a horrible spitting swearing looney'' its about time all three challenged this vile stigma publicly think of the millions who live in fear of stigma every day any one listening?.
Paul Davidson, Gateshead, England
I thought that the government was already made up entirely of lunatics and idiots.
Bernard, Edinburgh, Scotland
Following the general tone of this article this "archaic law" surprises me; from watching them in action at times there is no evidence that for many of them it even existed!
Some of the definitions are certainly applicable to quite a lot of what I have seen over the years.
Mike Traynor, Redcar, Cleveland