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Barack Obama hurled himself into an angry confrontation with the President yesterday after Mr Bush compared the Democratic candidate’s promise of talks with rogue states like Iran to the “false comfort of appeasement” towards the Nazis in the 1930s.
“Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along,” Mr Bush told the Knesset in Israel. “We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: ‘Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided’.”
Even though the White House insisted that Mr Bush was not talking specifically about Mr Obama, the Democrat Senator issued a statement denouncing what he called a “false political attack”. He said: “The President’s extraordinary politicisation of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally, Israel.”
The speed and force of his reaction reflects how he is increasingly focused on a looming general election against the Republicans, having all but won his fight with Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination. But it was also a sign of some sensitivity in Mr Obama’s campaign to charges that he is inexperienced and naive on foreign policy, particularly among the influential Jewish and pro-Israel lobby.
He has pledged to meet the leaders of states such as Iran, Cuba and North Korea during his first year in office – insisting that this would not include “terrorist organisations”. Last week one of Mr Obama’s advisers quit his team abruptly after admitting that he had already contacted the militant Islamist group Hamas.
On Wednesday night Mr Obama had taken a big step to addressing another flaw in his electoral appeal by securing the endorsement of John Edwards, a former presidential rival who maintains strong support among the white working-class vote, which has largely rejected Mr Obama in recent Democratic primaries, including West Virginia this week.
At a raucous rally in a stadium in Grand Rapids, Mr Edwards declared: “The Democratic voters have made their choice, and so have I.” There was “one man who knows in his heart that it’s time to create one America, not two – and that man is Barack Obama,” he added.
Although Michigan is more fertile general election territory for Mr Obama than the rural hills of West Virginia, he knows he needs help reaching out to voters who share many of the same economic concerns.
Mr Obama sought to build bridges with blue-collar workers who regard him as an elitist, even unpatriotic, figure. He toured a Chrysler assembly line wearing, in his lapel, the American flag pin he once eschewed.
He spoke later about the need for lower petrol prices, the need for “bot-tom-up economic growth” and insisted that a speech last year interpreted widely as an attack on Detroit’s car-makers had “gotten a bad rap”.
Mr Obama acknowledged that Mr Edwards’s backing – which effectively obliterated Mrs Clinton’s tour of evening news programmes after her West Virginia win – “will help some of those supporters who haven’t already joined my campaign to take a look at my campaign”. Neila Casarez, a 30-year-old health worker, said: “I love John Edwards. He would have been my choice for president even ahead of Obama – and now I want him to be vice-president.”
There is already speculation that Mr Edwards, who was the Democratic vice-presidential nominee in 2004, could join the ticket once more in November. Although some of the biggest names, including the former Vice-President, Al Gore, the House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi, and the Senate leader, Harry Reid, remain officially neutral, another sign that the party is now uniting behind Mr Obama could be seen in the way Howard Dean, the Democratic chairman, sprung to the defence of the presumptive nominee as he denounced Mr Bush’s remarks.
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Why is it that the mainstream press completely missed the story that while Bush called Obama an appeaser for wanting to talk to our enemies, the very same day, his Secretary of Defense, Gates, was calling for opening talks with Iran. The reality: these talks have been going on for three months.
Robert Berke, Oakland, USA
Bush : 2 manufactured recessions in power.
War with Iraq etc.
Then he gives a speech like John Wayne at the Alamo, in the Knessett .
Geeze no wonder the C minus student has the world at its knees.
Aitken, Noord, Aruba
Being criticised, albeit obliquely, by the least popular president the USA has ever had must surely amount to some kind of an endorsement
Anderson B Robertson, Dunoon, Scotland
Obama is desperate to play the race card.
This is just a prelude to that.
His staff will looking to isolate just a single word from a speech.
Enabling this will effectively silence all opposition in the press to him.
If I was Bush, I would careful as to even what colour of ink I used in my pen.
Tim, Bolton, England
This only stings the Democrats because it's true. Now they will have to address this issue rather than avoid it. Attempting a reasonable dialogue with terrorists and their sponsors is a waste of time, just ask Hitler.
Chandu, washington, DC, USA
To those still obsessed about Bush - his term is nearly over.
In two years Iran will have nuclear weapons, and they will be quite happy to keep Obama distracted with negotiation as long as necessary. Anyone who believes that Obama understands the Middle East is just not paying attention.
Patrick Henry, Bristol, UK
Interesting to see how many people spread the lie about Prescott Bush. Read some actual history. ANd then there is the "plot" against FDR!!! Really, you people should read up on the facts or provide some reference to back up your statements.
Look up Bush and nazis in wikipedia, for example.
zqll, Dallas, USA
US is at war because the Bush family started the warS. The Gulf War in the 90's by Bush Sr, the mess by Bush Jr. Another republican would be a "justified" solution to America;s problems. There wouldn't be any problem in the first place IF not for the Bush family.Wake up America!Vote 4 the Democrats!
Michelle, London,
It is very depressing, after several years of immoral and arrogant foreign policy by USA, that US citizens are still posting on this site prejudiced and inward-looking comments. By many in UK and elsewhere you are seen as selfish, purely bothered about your own nation i.e. a threat to the world.
Daniel Merceron, Andover, UK
Bush has used 9/11 to create a palpable sense of fear here in the USA.
In '09 I look forward to a foreign policy with an open dialogue with all world leaders.
Also I hope that the new President will stand up to the Jewish lobby and stop the Israeli government from destroying a chance of ME peace
Bob, Portland, USA
TO IAn
Perhaps Chamberlain was a victim of the times he lived in ,rather then being foolish.It wasnt till after Hitler invaded Poland that the Public opinion turned against him.The Nazis were quite popular with Tories and any attempts to oppsose them would have seen chamberlain out of premiership.
James, Harrow,
Unable to understand how John Edwards, who couldn't draw enough votes to even stay in the race, is going to bring all this support to Sen. Obama from people who despise everything he stands for. Looks to me like more press-generated hype.
Michael, Bryan, USA
Typical of Bush to pander to Israel and the influential Jewish lobby in the US. All Iran has ever asked for is faced to face talks without any precondtions - hardly a radical or extreme postion for a state that is a co-signatory of the NPT - that gives it the legal right to have nuclear technology.
Michael Jabir, Leicestershire , UK
Adrian of Annapolis, maybe Chamberlain has had an unfair press - it's easy to condemn him in hindsight. However, others in the thirties certainly did understand the threat of Nazi Germany, notably Churchill.
If nothing else, Chamberlain was the wrong man in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Ian, London,
no harm in sitting down with terrorists if it brings long-term peace. Bill Clinton, Bertie Ahern and others with stamina and balls did explicitly this to put a definitive end to centuries of violence and hatred in Northern Ireland. Way to go Obama !
Ben Keeley, Nice, France
Patrick Henry et al: It is no longer clever to denigrate Chamberlain and appeasement. It demonstrates a dismal ignorance of history. You might read Self or Crozier. I can only hope none of you are serious students of history or aspiring Presidents. Neither do you write as if you have been to war.
adrian , annapolis,
Simon is correct in what he's said.
Andrew T, England, UK,
let's not forget that it was prescott bush, george ws grandfather who was also a nazi was involved in an attempt to stage a fascist coup against fdr in the forties. That's bbc mainstream news by the way. george w bush has used 9/11 in the exact same way that hitler used the mysterious reichstag fire
simon, warrington, england
I don't think Bush Junioir had very much foreign policy experience at all before he took the presidency. He'd barely left the country more than a couple of times before taking office and when he did take office, he embarked upon the most widely derided and offensive policy since Vietnam.
Nutty, tooting,
britain and France talked to Hitler< signed Munich Agreement and gave Nazi green light to WWII. They are responsible for death of 55+ mln/ people around the world. Now, they are going to repeat the same mistake, which will lead to nuclear war.
Greg Finkel, Moscow, Russia
In American politics, or all politics for that matter, perception often trumps reality. The perception that Obama is weak on foreign policy will probably mean that his choice of running mate will be someone with a military or national security background. The Democrats have many such candidates.
Jerry, Mississauga, Canada
Excuse a poor ignorant Scotsman, asking probably quite an obvious question; but just what significantly greater experience did Bush Jr have before taking office? It would seem to me that the post of President of the United States is a pretty unique one, that requires complete 'learning on the job'.
MacIntosh, Fort William, Scotland
Finally, a white, Southern democratic politician has come to the aid of Obama. It is no mystery to me why the last three Democratic Presidents have been white Southern males. Perhaps Obama should consider Edwards as a running mate, to give himself a fighting chance.
richard block, London, uk
The American president, whoever that may be, is merely a reflection of the cultural dynamics of the USA, a dynamic that every US citizen contributes to, whatever their political standing, active or inactive.
They are all responsible for what they collectively create, the good and the bad.
billy, Tynron, Scotland
"Many of his [Chamberlain's] contemporaries viewed him as stubborn and unwilling to accept criticism, an opinion backed up by his dismissal of cabinet ministers who disagreed with him on foreign policy." Now who does that remind you of Patrick Henry?
adrian , annapolis,
Current world perception of the US is a bully that gets what it wants by slapping the other kids around a bit. This stems from things like Guantanamo and ignoring the likes of the International Courts, Global Warming, UN, etc..
It is in the US interest to change this and Obama is the opportunity.
Andy, London, United Kingdom
What is disturbing about our great country is how many people believe in a man who has successfully mislead and manipulated the public. Mr. Obama is not what he seems. While Bush is far from perfect people better do thier home work with Obama rather than grasping at a pretty face and empty promise
melissa, Colorado Springs, US
Obama was looking to be insulted. It helps him define his position.
If you bother to read the whole speech, you'll see Bush was just expressing his position, whether you agree or not.
BB, Dover, USA
It is important for leaders to talk to their enemies as indicated in the Bible. Queen Esther was a fine example of this she even had dinner with her enemy then destroyed him (read the account in the bible) she was that jewish girl who became queen of Persia (which is now Iran of course).
joy, Wiesbaden, Germany
Bush is a INSULT to intelligent people and an embarrassment to America . . . Obama and the Democrats wish to follow the course set by generations of world leaders and TALK - Diplomacy is the first reaction of a secure nation.
The Bush family did BUSINESS and SUPPORTED Nazi Germany - so Jr panders+
Jess Wonderin, Modesto, CA, USA
Senator Obama is correct in the fact that you have to have talks with countries in order to more effectively deal with them. Rice's refusal to talk to leaders hasn't worked out so well has it? The mess Bush has us in must be repaired, at home and abroad.
Beth Crader, Richmond, USA
President Bush should be careful throwing around references about HItler. It was his grandfather, Prescott, who money laundred for Hitler and was fined by the U.S. government for it.
MsSwin, Louisville, USA
Typical of the Republicans to use terrorism to instill fear in the American public. And the undereducated and under-involved American public soak it up like sponges. The fact that Bush did not agree, is not the issue here, its is the way and what it was said.
Ray Godbout, Sugar Grove, IL, USA
And exactly what experience did George W. Bush have to lead U.S. ? Was it the way he dodged the Vietnam Wars because of his connections? Was it because he happened to be President at the time of 9/11? Was it because he got us into a war in Iraq under false pretense?
Prem, Philadelphia, PA, U.S.A.
Jeff,
Surely you mean King Bush, who thinks anyone anti-war is anti-America?
I'm not sure if you realize how the political system works in this country, but normally when one politican attacks another one, the second one responds.
Paul, Oklahoma City, USA
Senator Obama doth protest too much. Why such a defensive reaction to President Bush? Senator Clinton was spot on when she said that she would obliterate Iran if the theocrats who rule that nation attacked Israel with nuclear weapons. She understands deterrence; Obama does not.
Richard Perkins, Dover, New Hampshire, USA
You do not confront hatred with love to achieve anything........... other than scorn. Obama or Chamberlain - or whatever his name - should declare his beliefs to the American voters ...
Richard, Bucharest,
Bush is what stands between Americans and friendship with the rest of the world. If Obama makes president, the repair work can start
Peter Ravenscroft, Samford, Australia
All of the news stories seem to be slanted towards Obama's reaction, rather than Bush's critical message.
Obama is Chamberlain. Chamberlain had a 68% approval rating when he sealed the fate of Europe through his eloquent and foolish appeasement. Being a good talker is nearly worthless.
Patrick Henry, Bristol, UK
Good for Obama. to stand up to the garbage thrown in by the dysfunctional president of a dysfunctional administration. Bush forgets that he is and has been talking to North Korea (threatening to obliterate US directly) Ahmadin directs himself at Israel first. Does Bush really care about US?
kay salicornia, san jose, USA
The person who made the appeasement quote was a Republican senator named William Borah form Idaho. One the eve of World War 2, many Republicans including Bush family members were openly sympathetic with the Germans. Bush has a lot of chutzpah to use that quite in the Knesset.
E. Elder, Tampa Bay, Florida, USA
Apparently nobody is to express an opinion other than Obama. To do so is to receive the wrath of the anointed one. If Obama can't take a little heat, what is he going to do when the Iranian leader starts to rough him up. There is to be no debate, no difference of opinion in King Obama's world.
Jeff in Orlando, Orlando, fl., USA
Mr. Obama may be a great orator. He may
have a gift of words that swing people over,
but he lacks the experience, as does Hilary,
to lead our country in time of war.
Ronald Thiesing, Lima, ohio , USA